Demonstrationerna i Bangkok mars 2010.

[Rosarin]

Hej!

Här är söndagens nyheter ifrån:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Red-shirt-Rally-Live-Upda-t347258.html

TAN Network: Tight security at Gen Prem’s Si Sao Taewej residence,traffic ltd to one lane to facilitate vehicle search.
TAN Network: PM’s SecGen Korbsak Sabhavasu denies plan for special Cabinet meeting today,upgrading to Emergency Decree depends on situation

TV: About 2,000 Ayutthaya red-shirt supporters of the United Front for Democracy againt Dictatorship boarded three river cruise boats in preparation for joining the mass redshirt protest in Bangkok. .
TV: A large policepressence met protesters at the jetty and searched bags and provisions being loaded onro the boats
TV: Ayutthaya police said the bording by the re-shirt group had been uneventful and no weapons or contraband had been seized.
TV: Ayutthaya red-shirt leader khun Oiy said the group expected to be met along their route by five patrol boats and about 100 marine police.

Bangkok Post: Up to 80,000 rally, ready for high noon…Red Shirt leaders to issue ultimatum midday – threats protest could spread across city…

TAN Network: Dusit Poll:57.14% believes red-shirts rally for Thaksin S. ABAC Poll:80.9% rally to become more violent than April protest.

TV: The boat convoy of red-shirt supporters is proceedng down river towards Bangkok with smaller long-tail boats of supporters joining the main flotilla of five river cruisers and residents along the river coming out of their houses and waving red flags and encouraging the group on their way. Bridges crossn the rive are also ined wit red-shirt supporters adding to the festive atmosphere aboard the river cruisers.

TV: Bridges crossing the river are also lined with red-shirt supporters adding to the festive atmosphere aboard the river cruisers.
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Thai anti-government protesters to rally in Bangkok

by Boonradom Chitradon

BANGKOK (AFP) – Tens of thousands of red-shirted supporters of deposed Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra were to rally in Bangkok on Sunday to demand the government step down, sparking a major security operation.

Riot police and soldiers were deployed outside government offices as part of a 50,000-strong security force sent out under a strict security law that was enacted amid fears that some demonstrators could trigger violence.

Bangkok police said 45,000 protesters had turned up at the rally site by Saturday night, after some 50,000 had arrived through checkpoints, mostly from the rural north, throughout the day.

The Red Shirts were to officially begin the rally at midday (0500 GMT) Sunday, dubbing it their “million man march”.

Thousands of the protesters were seen Saturday holding their trademark foot-shaped clappers, and had blocked streets by a stage rigged up near government offices.

“We will declare our demands to the government, that it must step down and dissolve the house,” Red Shirt Jatuporn Prompan said at the site on Saturday.

“If our demands are not met then we will step up our campaign on Monday but I can reassure everyone that it will be peaceful,” he said.

The government has enacted the strict Internal Security Act for the demonstrations, allowing authorities to set up checkpoints, impose curfews and limit movements.

Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has refused to bow to the protesters’ demands and warned the public not to be complacent about the potential for violence. He cancelled his own weekend trip to Australia because of the rally.

The government said it expected about 70,000 Red Shirts to attend, but the protesters have said the number will be several times higher.

The rallies come two weeks after Thailand’s top court confiscated 1.4 billion dollars of Thaksin’s assets, and are the latest chapter in the country’s political turmoil that began when Thaksin was toppled in a 2006 coup.

Thaksin, who has been living mostly in Dubai to escape a two-year jail term for corruption at home, has been encouraging his supporters to attend the rally using text messages and his Twitter page.

On Saturday he left his main base in Dubai to travel to Europe where he said he was meeting his two daughters.

The protest is set to be the biggest since the Red Shirts rioted in Bangkok in April last year, leaving two dead and scores injured.

The Red Shirts mainly represent Thailand’s rural poor, who benefited from Thaksin’s populist policies and say Abhisit’s government is elitist, military-backed and has ignored their democratic rights.

Thaksin, by contrast, is loathed by the rival royalist “Yellow Shirts” backed by Bangkok’s establishment, who accuse him of corruption and of lacking loyalty to the revered royal family.

Thirty-five countries have issued travel warnings for Thailand because of the protests, according to the country’s tourism authority.

Analysts say the turnout on Sunday will be key to deciding whether the Red Shirts have any chance of ousting the government before Thailand’s next polls, due in December 2011.

The Red Shirts have held a number of protests since Abhisit came to power in December 2008 after a court decision removed Thaksin’s allies from government following an airport blockade by the Yellow Shirts.

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TAN Network: Dusit Poll:57.14% believes red-shirts rally for Thaksin S. ABAC Poll:80.9% rally to become more violent than April protest
TAN Network: PM Abhisit: Int’l community recognizes current admin as a democratic govt as foreign envoys urge protesters to rally peacefully
TAN Network: PM:It isn’t simple to declare Emergency decree,must follow proper steps,conditions must be met b4 decree’ll be considered
TAN Network: Foreigners hotline: 089 205-4311 (ISOC) and 088 227-8648 (Foreign Affairs Ministry).

THE NATION: Thousands red-shirts in 200 boats left Ayutthaya at 8am Sun. heading towards Theves pier,Bangkok to join mass rally at Phan Fa bridge
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PM to explain security measures on TV

Prime Minister will go on TV Sunday morning to explain the government’s security measures.

His weekly programme will be broadcast live from 11th Infantry Regiment where the Peacekeeping Operation Centre is located.

— THE NATION
2010-03-14

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TAN Network: Suspicious package discovered at PTT petrol station in front of 11th Infantry Regiment of King’s guard,police notified
TAN Network: Red-taxis congregate on in-bound Paholyothin rd in Wang Noi district before joining taxi caravan at Royal Plaza in Bkk
BAngkok Post: PM: Govt won’t use force against reds
TAN_Network: Red-taxis congregate on in-bound Paholyothin rd in Wang Noi district before joining taxi caravan at Royal Plaza in Bkk
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Bangkok Post: PM: Govt won’t use force against reds
Thai News: Popular tourist venues in Bangkok still lively with foreign tourists

[Rosarin]

PM says govt will not use violence, but will not tolerate besieging of govt offices

BANGKOK: — Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva told the TV audience Sunday that his government will not use violence against the red-shirt protesters.

But he said the government would base its security measures on the ruling of the Administrative Court and would not allow the protesters to besiege any place.

“The government must ensure that all people can live in harmony with peace by upholding the rule of law.

Although the people may have different opinions, they must be able to live together,” Abbhisit said during his live TV programme.

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Photo Impressions

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Photo-Impres…-M-t347298.html

[Rosarin]

Abhisit says Arisman’s arrest warrant not related to rally

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva told his TV audience Sunday that the arrest warrant against Arisaman Pongruangrong, a red-shirt leader, has been processed earlier and was not related to the on-going rally.

He said the court approved the arrest warrant because Arisman earlier made a statement at a rally and the case has been processed in line with the normal procedure.

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MCOT: PM thanks Red Shirts for peaceful rally; confirms ‘no crackdown’ on protesters, no plan to impose emergency decree now

MCOT: Red Shirts from Ayutthaya, Ang Thong stream to Bangkok by boat to join rally; government provides security at piers
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Coup not solution: Abhisit

BANGKOK: — Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva told his TV audience Sunday that a coup will not be a solution to the on-going crisis.

He said no one supports such a solution.

“If a coup is staged, this government will go out of office and the protesters will have to hold more protests against the coup,” Abhisit said.

“So a coup will tend to create more conflicts.”

— The Nation 2010-03-14
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[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Metropolitan Police close all roads leading to Ratchadamneon Avenue
TAN Network: Ch 3 reporting that mysterious bag that was reportedly found at the 11th Infantry was merely a rumor

NATION: State of Emergency cannot keep red shirts in check: Natthawut
NATION: 20 companies of troops from 2nd, 3rd Army Areas reinforce security at 11th Infantry Regiment
TAN network: 1,500 red-shirts on their way to Maleenont Building (Ch 3 HQ),heavy traffic congestion on inbound Sukhumvit rd.
NATION: TV report shows Khao Saan Rd a sleepy, quiet tourist area. Very few tourists in deed. It’s been like this since assets verdict, it’s said.
NATION: Bt300 million has been lost in Khao Saan businesses, it’s said. Hopefully, this doesn’t drag on till Songkran.

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NATION: Good news: Abhisit is resisting urge to impose state of emergency, saying govt remains resolved against violence.
NATION: 20 companies of troops from 2nd, 3rd Army Areas reinforce security at 11th Infantry Regiment

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MCOT: Police seize about 1,000 parts of grenade launchers in Samut Prakan; follows investigation from seizure of grenade launchers in Ayutthaya

NATION: Now, from the “most official source”: PM Abhisit said the number of protesters is around 100,000.

MCOT: Army companies reinforce 11th Infantry Regiment as Red Shirts plan mass march in 20km radius: Peacekeeping Operations Centre spokesman Col Sansern
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NATION: Coalition partners have resolved to back Abhisit against House dissolution call.

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[Rosarin]

NATION: Coalition partners have resolved to back Abhisit against House dissolution call.
NATION: Will Abhisit dissolve parliament?
Bangkok Post: Army acts to defend military camp
NATION: PM’s personal spokesman Panitan said on TV state of emergency can’t be declared without an emergency.

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PM: Invoking Emergency Decree depends on urgency; More protesters arrive in Bangkok

BANGKOK (TNA) — Faced by pressures from anti-government protesters demanding the ouster of his coalition government, Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said Sunday that invoking the Emergency Decree by the government would depend on a “necessity and urgency only”.

Thanking protesters of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) for holding a thus far peaceful demonstration in the capital, Mr Abhisit said during his weekly television and radio address that in an attempt to ease confrontations between security personnel and the protesters, the government had ordered a number of soldiers to be withdrawn from protest sites and replaced by police.

Intelligence reports received by the government showed that certain ‘Red Shirt’ factions from the northeastern province of Ubon Ratchathani and the northern province of Chiang Mai may cause trouble during the rally, he said.

“The government must issue stringent measures and whether it would issue the Emergency Decree would depend on a “necessity and urgency only,” said Mr Abhisit.

The nearly 16-month-old government has effected a less stringent Internal Security Act from March 11-23 in Bangkok and neighbouring provinces in a bid to contain the protest from turning into violence.

Mr Abhisit’s remarks were made as more UDD protesters arrive in Bangkok by boat to join their demonstrators now gathering at Ratchadamnoen Avenue where a number of ministries and the United Nations ESCAP (Asian and Pacific regional headquarters) are located.

UDD leaders said earlier that one million protesters would join their rally in the capital in an attempt to oust the government and a call for a fresh election, but police estimated that the number of protesters stood at only 80,000 Saturday night.

Bangkok police, meanwhile, said they had not yet obtained an arrest warrant for UDD key figure Arisman Pongruangrong on charges of inciting violence resulting from his statements during two rallies in Bangkok and in the northeastern province of Khon Kaen in late January.

The complaints were filed by the UDD’s archrival the People’s Alliance for Democracy (the PAD ‘Yellow Shirts’) on Monday.

Police said they would arrest him immediately if they receive the warrant approved by the Criminal Court on Saturday.

Military and personnel from the Marine Department provided security at Thewet pier Sunday as more Red Shirts from central provinces arrived by boat on the Chao Phraya River to join the rally in the capital.

The Royal Thai Navy and the Marine Department are conducting joint water patrols under the security plan for the vicinity of Siriraj Hospital where His Majesty the King is staying.

Boats which do not normally carry passengers are banned from the eight piers nearby Siriraj.

However, Red Shirt protesters are allowed to disembark at the Thewet, Samphraya and the Rama XIII bridge piers.

Meanwhile, Suan Dusit Rajabhat University conducted a poll on 1,090 respondents in Bangkok and seven other surrounding provinces over the enforcement of the security law and the Red Shirt protest.

Thirty-one per cent think that the Red Shirt protest makes foreign countries think that Thailand is an unstable country and that the Thai people don’t love one another, while 24 per cent see that the protest causes trouble to people living at and near rally areas.

More than half, 57 per cent, believe that the UDD rally is not a true democratic expression, as it is being held to benefit one person and is considered as a political game to stir up the government.

Only some 24 per cent think that the protest is carried out as a true democratic expression as the public has the right to protest if they are treated unfairly.

Slightly over one in four — 27 per cent — also worry that Thailand’s image will be tarnished in the international arena and one in four — 25 per cent — believe the protest will damage the country’s economy in addition to the investment and tourism industries. (TNA)

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NATION: Reds’ call for House dissolution may explain why Pheu Thai has delayed its censure motion, which would prevent PM from dissolving House.
MCOT: Red-shirt leader Weng T. announced they’ll give govt 24hrs to meet demand for PM to dissolve House.No word on when reds will march
NATION: Jatuporn urged protesters to make it the biggest “Prai (slaves, low-life human beings or grass-roots) War” in history. Amazing.

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Updates:

NATION:Tomorrow noon is the reds’ deadline. Long week ahead people.

Tourism Authority of Thailand TAT opens a 24-hr call centre for tourists at 1672 until March 23

Bangkok Post: Roads to Ratchadamnoen closed

[Rosarin]

Här är en karta över hur de röda rör sig i Bkk, så man kan ha koll på trafiken:

http://www.tannetwork.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1026190

Här är mer nyheter:

NATION: The FCCT Bldg is opened until 9pm today to provide the media with a convenient location to gather&report on the situation

Wayne Rogers via Facebook: Reds just marched down Sukhumvit – estimated a few thousand – everyone was cheering and in good spirits – ho hum

Suthichai@Nation: Under red hot sun,sleepless nights of traveling, redshirts need extraordinary will to go through 3-5 grueling days.
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NATION: 80,000 red-shirts are rallying in Bangkok midday Sun.amid tight security.PM assures no use of force on protesters
Thaivisa: Large numbers of ppl lining the river bank shouting encouragement as Ayutthaya flotilla nears BKK

Related topic:
Key dates in Saga of Thailand’s Thaksin
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Key-Dates-Sa…in-t342694.html

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Police seize 10,000 grenade launcher parts; PM chairs security meeting

BANGKOK (TNA) — Police early Sunday seized some 10,000 grenade launcher components at a suburban factory as Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva called an urgent security meeting with top military officers as the red-clad anti-government protesters were set to issue their ultimatum to the government to leave office.

The seizure of parts of M79 grenade launchers was made at a factory in Samut Prakarn province neighbouring eastern Bangkok.

It came after police early Saturday searched another factory producing automobile spare parts in Wang Noi district of Ayutthaya province, north of Bangkok, and seized about 100 pieces of steel tube which could be used as substitute M79 grenade launchers.

Worries over the current unrest, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva presided at a meeting of the Peacekeeping Operations Centre held at the 11th Infantry Regiment headquarters on the outskirts of Bangkok.

Attending the meeting were Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, who directs the Centre, Defence Minister Gen. Prawit Wongsuwan, commanders of the three armed forces and senior security agency officers.

Security around the 11th Infantry Regiment headquarters was tightened after Jatuporn Prompan, a leader of the anti-government movement the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), threatened Saturday that protesters would spread over a 20-kilometre radius of their current main site on Rajdamnoen Avenue if their demand for the government to leave the office was not met.

The UDD leaders were expected to officially announce the movement’s demands around noon Sunday. (TNA)

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NATION: Red-shirted are marching in front of Paragon & Siam Sq. – took them about 15 mins -occupying 2 lanes but traffic is OK

kl.13.59, thailändsk tid

[Rosarin]

Här är en hemsida som försöker ta kål på rykten och annat som cirkulerar för att skapa kaos och panik hos allmänheten.

http://www.capothai.org/

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[Rosarin]

Veera demands PM to dissolve House in 24 hours

BANGKOK: — Veera Musigapong read a statement at noon Sunday, demanding the prime minister to dissolve the House of Representatives within 24 hours.

Reading from a statement, Veera said House dissolution would be the only solution left for the government.

He said the government was now under the control of a dictatorial regime in disguise and Parliament had abused its authority to issue several unfair articles.

Veera said the red-shirt people would wait for a reply from the government within 24 hours before taking further actions.

— The Nation 2010-03-14

[Nille]

Inga gula på gatorna?

[Thaisambo]

@Nille wrote:

Inga gula på gatorna?

Nä, de ägnar sej väl åt att ignorera de röda och sprider ryktet att det där bara är ett gäng köpta “demonstranter” som inte ska tas på allvar.

Hur ska man annars tolka det där om att Thaksin ska ha halverat sin ersättning till demonstranterna?

Tyvärr kan ett sådant förhållningssätt leda till en eskalering hos de röda så att de använder tydligare markeringar än att bara visa sej för att demonstrera sitt missnöje. Inslaget av bomber kan uppfattas som sådana förtydliganden och ryktena om stora mängder illegala vapen i omlopp en annan bekymmersfaktor att tänka på.

Ignorans är inte riktigt det perfekta motvapnet, det är kränkande i den här situationen och innebär att man åsidosätter principerna om allas lika rätt och värde när man behandlar dem som luft.

Men visst är det en fredlig och oblodig strategi. Med lite tur fungerar det om det nu är korrekt det där att de röda bara består av ett gäng köpta “demonstranter” utan djupare engagemang än att åka dit och visa sej ett slag för att fullgöra sitt uppdrag.

[Rosarin]

Nej ingen har rapporterat något om några gula på gatorna.
Inte heller några “blue-shirts” som Röd-skortorna kallar de som är för den sittande regeringen.
Vi märker fortfarande inte av något, här där vi är.

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Red shirts give ultimatum to govt to resign by Monday

Natthawut Saikua Sunday gave an ultimatum to the government to dissolve the House by Monday or face red-shirt protests throughout the capital.

“If the House is not dissolve within March 15, all the red-shirt people will move throughout Bangkok to oust the elitist-polity government,” Natthawut told the crowd at the Pan Fah Bridge at noon.

— The Nation 2010-03-14

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bangkokpundit: Thai Rath reports quoting red shirt leader Jatuporn that Thaksin will phone-in around 5-6 p.m. today

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Tror ni att regeringen kommer att upplösas i morgon eller inte?

[Rosarin]

UDD calls for House dissolution within 24 hrs

BANGKOK (NNT) — The anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) has called on the government to dissolve the House within 24 hours.

UDD core leader Weera Musikapong on Sunday declared the standpoint of the group, saying the coalition government led by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva must dissolve Parliament within 24 hours to return democracy to people.

Otherwise, he threatened that the UDD group would spread out to gather around Bangkok.

The declaration also criticized the government for its illegitimacy and lack of qualification to administrate the country. It indicated that dictatorship has dominated the country since the 19 September coup d’état.

Meanwhile, a number of UDD supporters from nationwide are still travelling to participate in the mass rally at Phan Fa Bridge. Most of the protesters travelling by boats have already arrived Sam Phraya pier, according to the report.

There have been no reports about any violence instigation thus far while security officers are still taking care of the situation closely.

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[Rosarin]

Police raid M79 launcher assembly factory, seize 600 launchers

SAMUT PRAKAN: — Police raided a factory here and seized 600 assembled M79 launchers and over 5,000 other parts for assembling the launchers.

Police arrested Supawit Keskul, 39, after police raided Siam KS Machine and Services in Bang Bo district at 7:30 am.

Later at 1:30 pm, police took Supawit to search his warehouse in Bang Pli district and seized 300 parts, which are triggering mechanisms of the grenade launchers.

Samut Prakan Police chief Pol Maj Gen Chisnupong Yuktathat said police checked a computer record and found that an order of the grenade launchers had been made via Internet for the launchers to be made and delivered to a customer in Chon Buri.

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All eyes on Thai politics:
Executives comment on the current political situation

THERDSAK THAVEETEERATHAM
Senior vice president, Asia Plus Securities

The political situation remains the main thing to watch this week, as negative developments would affect the economic recovery.

Two scenarios are possible. First, a House dissolution, which would delay infrastructure investment and other projects. The SET Index could head up in the short term due to lower political tension.

Second, the demonstration could continue until today without a House dissolution and with some violence over the past weekend. Investor confidence would be affected and share prices would fall. Political conflict would continue to pressure the market, as a no-confidence debate is planned.

Capital inflows are now the major market driver. From February 17 to March 11, foreign investors’ buys were Bt26.6 billion higher than their sells. Facilitating the fund flow could be the appreciation of Asian currencies, including the baht, in line with interest rates that offered arbitrage gains. Or it could be the cheapness of the Thai market, where the price-to-earnings ratio is at 12-13 times and the average dividend yield is 4 per cent. Fund flows should continue if the political situation does not descend into violence.

Overall, volatility will remain. Investors looking for short-term gains should wait and see, while those looking for long-term gains should start to buy when the index softens to 700-710 points. Focus should be on stocks with an inflation hedge, like oil companies (PTT Exploration and Production, and Thai Oil) or companies whose performance moves in line with inflation, such as Thai Tap Water.

KAVEE CHUKITKASEM

Head of research, Kasikorn Securities

Political concerns led to considerable volatility in the Thai stock market last week. The market failed to catch up with the big increases overseas, which indicated the influence of the domestic political conflict on its direction. However, foreign investors remained net buyers in Asia, including Thailand, on consensus that the US Federal Reserve will raise the policy rate in November. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke’s remark that the Fed fund rate would stay low for a while also led to a weaker dollar and returns of foreign funds into risk-investment bets.

Commodity prices and stock prices globally rose last week. Moreover, China’s affirmation that the economy would grow at least 8 per cent, with Beijing’s full readiness to inject money into the system when needed, also eased investors’ concerns.

This week, stock-market volatility should persist due to the political factor. Without violence, the SET Index could touch 750-758 points on buoyant global economic indicators. Even if violence takes place, the index should not fall below 688 points thanks to continued capital inflows.

Last April, despite the violence, the market was resilient, as institutional investors stood ready to buy up shares when prices drastically dropped on confidence that the Thai and global economy would further recover.

In the short term, investors should stay alert. They should stand ready to stop-loss when the index falls past 714 points. Yet, a lower index also presents a good opportunity to accumulate shares. We believe that in the latter half of the year, the index could rise to 840 points, as the world bounces back from the economic downturn.

SUKIT UDOMSIRIKUL

Siam City Research Institute

The market is expected to be highly volatile this week, when the SET Index should range from 696 to 750 points. The index could head upward early in the week, on condition that the political demonstration did not lead to violence during the weekend. There is a tendency for the purchases of institutional investors – both local and foreign – to outpace their sales.

However, in the event of violence, the index could weaken to the 696-point level, which presents a good chance for investors looking for long-term gains.

SCRI estimates foreign-capital inflows into Asia will continue throughout the year, as Asia has demonstrated a clear economic recovery. Moreover, no Asian financial institutions are mired in a crisis and no country has experienced serious trouble with a fiscal deficit. This indicates a low risk of credit-rating downgrades. Meanwhile, foreign investors have a chance to reap foreign-exchange gains, as interest rates in Asia are expected to rise soon. Still, the US’s consideration of imposing rules on banks’ risk-asset investment could pose a threat to the capital inflows.

This week, investors should pay attention to:

China, which may impose rules to stem the overheating economy as some indicators demonstrate a lack of stability, such as the higher-than-expected consumer price index.

Greece, whose financial crisis remains a concern, despite confirmation from Germany and France that Europe is ready to help ease the crisis. However, there have been no concrete measures, which led to volatility in the dollar/euro exchange rate. Local demonstrations against the government’s plan to cut fiscal deficits will be a major threat to solving the crisis.

The political demonstration in Thailand. Following the gathering this past weekend, protesters may continue their rally this week.

The US Federal Open Market Committee, which convenes tomorrow. Markets expect the Fed to maintain the rate at this meeting, but monetary measures may be stepped up through non-interest-rate means. The dollar could appreciate as a result.

The Bank of Japan, which also convenes tomorrow. The relaxed monetary policy could continue, which would further weaken the yen.

Leading the Thai market this week should be energy and banking stocks. Those in the tourism and transport sectors could see continued improvement, if the political protest did not turn violent.

Thai Airways International has passed its worst period on the back of a continued recovery in the tourism sector as well as minimal impact from the political protests. The cabin-load factor in the current quarter could hit a record 80 per cent. Despite a high debt-to-equity ratio, a capital increase in the second quarter should help lower the ratio. Buy THAI when the price is Bt30.

Thai Oil should benefit from the recovery in the refining industry. The refining margin in Singapore remains at US$5.07 (Bt165) per barrel, at the top of the estimated range for the first half. The company will gain the most from its biggest and most efficient operations. As the aromatics spread weakened in the past two weeks, attention shifted from PTT Aromatics and Refining to Thai Oil. The company’s share price could rise 22 per cent to Bt55.

— The Nation 2010-03-14

[Thaisambo]

@Thaisambo wrote:

@Nille wrote:

Inga gula på gatorna?

Nä, de ägnar sej väl åt att ignorera de röda …

Ignorans är inte riktigt det perfekta motvapnet….

Men visst är det en fredlig och oblodig strategi.

Och som synes hjälper polisen så gärna till för att hålla det kvar på den nivån.

Det liknar allt mer våra egna – allt ovanligare – fackliga strejker som pågår till strejkkassan är slut. Utmattningskrig helt enkelt. Och inte särskilt effektiva verktyg heller, det kostar mycket mer än det smakar har vi märkt på sistone.

[erikv]

Min fru pratade nyss med sin syster i Thailand o hon säger att Thaksin har gett pengar till oppositions ledaren för de röda som i sin tur har delat pengar till porvince ledarna. Vad som har uppdagats är att dessa province ledare har stoppat mer eller mindre hälften i sina egna fickor. Detta har skapat en stor splittring o fotfolket är mycket arga mot province ledarna-
Ordagrant ska oppositions ledare sagt: Ni har fått 1000 Bth plus 500 Bth till fordonet då säger folket att de har bara fått 500 Bth plus 300 Bth till fordonet därav inre oroligheter. Hon sade att har Thaksin har ett väldigt stort pengaflöde som gör att kapitalet minskar fort. Han har också tagit ut sin familj från Thailand. Det detta vad hennes syster som är lärare på ett universitet i Thailand säger så jag tvivlar inte på hennes sanningsenlighet.

MVH
erikv

[erikv]

Till thaisambo

Så du menar att de gula ska också ut på gatorna demonstrera så att det blir upplopp o kravaller. Thai är inte som svenskar(fogliga o lite lagom) o det vet de flesta. Det finns ett temperament som lätt svallar över under detta leende ansikte. Du kan försöka med bara att förolämpa en så får du se vad som kan hända. Det finns ingen koppling till svenskheten.
MVH
erikv

[Bkk]

Jag har gjort en liten spaningsrunda igen – vid 15-tiden. När jag for över floden (Phra Pin Klao Bridge), kunde jag se ca 10 båtar från marinens flotta liggandes för bevakning på floden med jämna mellanrum. Alla tvärgående färjor, samt expressbåtarna gick dock som vanligt. Busslinjerna är dock i begränsad trafik idag. Över huvud taget väldigt lite trafik.

Runt Sanam Luang var det oväntat lite folk. En del i röda tröjor i norra änden, men i södra (mot Grand Palace) i stort sett tomt. Uppskattningsvis ca 1.000 människor, dvs inget anmärkningsvärt. Rachadamnoen Klang är avstängd nu i båda ändarna, men med cykel kommer man enkelt igenom. Högtalare är uppställda med jämna mellanrum längs gatan och agitationen pågår (scenen är i andra änden). En del röda tröjor sitter under tältdukarna i skuggan utmed trottoarerna, men det är överraskande lite folk här också. Kommer upp till Demokratimonumentet och nu börjar det bli mer. Jag möter tågande rödskjortor och inser att jag inte kan ta mig emot strömmen upp till Phan Faa Lilat (där scenen är). De tågar runt Demokratimonumentet och upp igen. Det är glad och uppsluppen stämning. Men är det verkligen så många demonstranter, tveksam om det är mer än 10.000…?

Vad är det som är så farligt? Jag förstår inte varför media ska skrämma upp folk för de här demonstrationerna. Det här är inte ett dugg konstigare än när Mona Sahlin talar på Sergels Torg. UD varnar svenskar för att undvika demonstrationerna och större folksamlingar i Bangkok. De kan lika gärna varna folk för att gå in i duschen – man kan halka på tvålen! Nå, osvuret är väl bäst – får se om det händer något ikväll/natt.

Jag tar parallellgatan Khao San Road tillbaka och här är livet som vanligt, men färre turister. En del springer runt med kameror och fotar rödtröjor, men de flesta går omkring med sin frigolitförpackning och käkar phat thai, som vanligt.

[Nisse]

Tack för din rapportering, mycket uppskattat!

[sunsern]

@Bkk wrote:

Jag har gjort en liten spaningsrunda igen – vid 15-tiden. När jag for över floden (Phra Pin Klao Bridge), kunde jag se ca 10 båtar från marinens flotta liggandes för bevakning på floden med jämna mellanrum. Alla tvärgående färjor, samt expressbåtarna gick dock som vanligt. Busslinjerna är dock i begränsad trafik idag. Över huvud taget väldigt lite trafik.

Runt Sanam Luang var det oväntat lite folk. En del i röda tröjor i norra änden, men i södra (mot Grand Palace) i stort sett tomt. Uppskattningsvis ca 1.000 människor, dvs inget anmärkningsvärt. Rachadamnoen Klang är avstängd nu i båda ändarna, men med cykel kommer man enkelt igenom. Högtalare är uppställda med jämna mellanrum längs gatan och agitationen pågår (scenen är i andra änden). En del röda tröjor sitter under tältdukarna i skuggan utmed trottoarerna, men det är överraskande lite folk här också. Kommer upp till Demokratimonumentet och nu börjar det bli mer. Jag möter tågande rödskjortor och inser att jag inte kan ta mig emot strömmen upp till Phan Faa Lilat (där scenen är). De tågar runt Demokratimonumentet och upp igen. Det är glad och uppsluppen stämning. Men är det verkligen så många demonstranter, tveksam om det är mer än 10.000…?

Vad är det som är så farligt? Jag förstår inte varför media ska skrämma upp folk för de här demonstrationerna. Det här är inte ett dugg konstigare än när Mona Sahlin talar på Sergels Torg. UD varnar svenskar för att undvika demonstrationerna och större folksamlingar i Bangkok. De kan lika gärna varna folk för att gå in i duschen – man kan halka på tvålen! Nå, osvuret är väl bäst – får se om det händer något ikväll/natt.

Jag tar parallellgatan Khao San Road tillbaka och här är livet som vanligt, men färre turister. En del springer runt med kameror och fotar rödtröjor, men de flesta går omkring med sin frigolitförpackning och käkar phat thai, som vanligt.

Hej! det är med skrämma folk ! det normal för thailändare ,de er duktig att reta varandra,!på peka andra gör fel,de ser aldrig egen fel,Hur många er känna på egen fel??? :scratch: :pale: :salute:

[Thaisambo]

@erikv wrote:

Till thaisambo

Så du menar att de gula ska också ut på gatorna demonstrera så att det blir upplopp o kravaller. Thai är inte som svenskar(fogliga o lite lagom) o det vet de flesta. Det finns ett temperament som lätt svallar över under detta leende ansikte. Du kan försöka med bara att förolämpa en så får du se vad som kan hända. Det finns ingen koppling till svenskheten.
MVH
erikv

Erikv,

Varför i all världen skulle jag koppla till svenskheten?

Den enda parallell jag gör är jämförelsen med strejksystemet i fackföreningssammanhang, där deltagarna genom strejkkassan får betalt för att strejka, och det system som används nu, där demonstranter får betalt för att demonstrera. I båda fallen är det den som sitter på pengarna som betalar.

Och att de gula inte eskalerar konflikten genom att hålla på med motdemonstrationer utan ligger lågt är uppenbart, det ser ut att vara en medveten strategi med flera bottnar. Varför skulle de överhuvudtaget bry sej om vad de röda gör? De röda kan gott få tömma sina demonstrationskassor så ebbar det ut likaväl som en arbetsmarknadskonflikt kan ebba ut därför att strejkkassan tar slut.

Du kan jämföra med våra kravaller, t ex 30 nov vid Karl XII:s staty i Stockholm, där allsköns grupperingar drabbar samman, nynazister, skinheads och diverse motdemonstranter. Här i Thailand går det lugnt till. Det är ingalunda som t ex IRA i Belfast även om de också använde bomber på sin tid. Och polisen gör allt för att hålla det nere och avväpnar, det gör man förresten i och för sej överallt där det finns konfliktrisk.

Tror Du verkligen på fullt allvar att thai går in för att förolämpa och provocera? De är ju buddhister i grunden – undviker konflikt helt enkelt och gör allt för att undvika konflikter eller eskalera sådana, det är inte konflikter thailändsk kultur handlar om.

Inte heller har detta med svenskar att göra eller ens med den i och för sig aggressiva kristenheten, det är kontraster.

Det jag talar om är vilka tämligen uppenbara strategier som kommer till användning och hur liknande strategier kommit till användning även på andra håll.

Det stora svenska misslyckandet är Ådalen kravallerna 1931, sen dess har man inte använt militära insatser mot civilbefolkningen i Sverige. Det är också en parallell och har med strategisk konflikthantering att göra. Eller tror Du på något sätt att thailändsk militär skulle gå in och börja skjuta hej vilt för att få slut på demonstrationen? Det är ju sådant man försöker undvika!

Nu har det som Du också skrivit tidigare i tråden uppstått inre söndring bland demonstranterna därför att något rykte om att ledande inom demonstrantverksamheten bland de röda skulle ha stoppat delar av demonstrationskassan i egen ficka. Om det verkligen är så eller inte spelar inte så stor roll, den konkreta effekten är att demoralisering och splittring uppstår bland demonstranterna. Det kan vara verklig information eller medveten desinformation – ett skolexempel på hur information kan användas för att utså split och söndring beroende på vad man vill åstadkomma.

Det är också därför man inte kan ha något förtroende för information under en pågående konflikt, det används som strategiska styrmedel för att få kontroll, ett mycket effektivt konflikthanteringsmedel för övrigt när vi nu lever i ett informationssamhälle.

[Rosarin]

MCOT: Yaowarat gold shops close for safety, to avoid traffic congestion; will evaluate situation day by day before reopening

MCOT: Stock Exchange of Thailand, commercial banks operating normally Monday despite ongoing Red Shirt rally

Bangkok Post: Monday not a public holiday

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TAN Network: INN: Red shirts announce they will move their protest to 11th Infantry if gov’t refuses to dissolve Parliament
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Channel 11 reporting that the reds will move from Ratchadamnoen at 9am tomorrow.
Their destination believed to be 11th Infantry base on Phaholyothin Road (as you earlier reported) at about 11am.
Aim to deliver ultimatum to the government at noon.

TAN Network: German ambassador to THL denied Thaksin S. has traveled to Germany, banned from entering Germany since 2009.

Bangkokpundit: Via journo source, a red shirt leader has said main protest days will be 14-16. Likely to hear about 10:30pm tonight

MCOT: Spokesman: PM’s schedule won’t be made public for safety reasons; no plan to invoke emergency law

Bangkokpundit: More likely Thaksin went to Switzerland than Germany anyway. They have banks there!

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Breaking News:
Red Shirts to siege 11th infantry regiment in Bangkok:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Thaksin-s-Ru…-C-t347408.html

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Red Shirts threaten to dog premier to pressure for House dissolution

BANGKOK: — An anti-government activist from United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) on Sunday announced some red-shirted
demonstrators will follow Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva everywhere until the UDD’s demand for the House of Representatives dissolution is met.

Arisman Pongruangrong told journalists that protesters would gather at the venue for Monday’s special Cabinet meeting and await a decision by Mr Abhisit.

“If the prime minister gives no response to our demand or doesn’t resign, the ‘Red Shirt’ people will dog him wherever he goes,” said Mr Arisman, stating that the Red Shirt demonstrations will be peaceful and unarmed.

Mr Arisman’s remarks came as tens of thousands of UDD protesters are assembled on Rajdamnoen Avenue, and key UDD leader Veera Musikapong
earlier announced a 24-hour ultimatum for the government to dissolve the House, otherwise it will face mass demonstrations at key locations across the capital on Monday.

In other development, the prime minister has ordered the cancellation of the customary weekly Cabinet meeting on Tuesday as the House Speaker has called for a joint parliamentary meeting on the same day, according to Cabinet secretary-general Surachai Pooprasert.

Meanwhile, House of Representatives secretary-general Pitoon Pumhiran said
House Speaker Chai Chidchob has called for a joint parliamentary meeting
this Tuesday to debate on some issues which were not discussed last Friday.

However, the upcoming session could be postponed for the lack of quorum, said Mr Pitoon.

On the business front, Bank of Thailand (BoT) deputy governor Krirk Vanikkul said the central bank and commercial banks will open on Monday, but any commercial banks which is near protest venues are allowed to temporarily suspend their services if it is deemed necessary.

Meanwhile, the Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) president Patareeya Benjapolchai announced on Sunday that the bourse will not be closed on Monday despite continuing red shirted rally given that the weekend demonstrations has been peaceful and has no impact on the stock market.

The head of the exchange said, however, that the SET will closely monitor
the situation.

— TNA 2010-03-14

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Natthawut threatens to move protesters to 11th Infantry Regiment

BANGKOK: — Natthawut Saikua, a red-shirt leader, announced that the protesters would move to rally outside the 11th Infantry Regiment if the prime minister does not dissolve the House by 9 am Monday.

Speaking at a press conference at 5 pm Sunday, Natthawut said the red-shirt people gave the prime minister until 9 am to dissolve the House or the protesters would move to pressure him outside the regiment.

The protesters would travel on Larn Luang Road, passing the Victory Monument to Phaholyothin to the 11th Infantry Regiment, where the prime minister has been using as a safe house.

But Natthawut said the protesters would not remain at the regiment because the Pan Fah Bridge would be used as their command centre.

Natthawut said the protester would hound the prime minister no matter where he may go.

— The Nation 2010-03-14

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BangkokDan: Red shirts claim 300,000 protesters, interior ministry 46,000. Arial shots anyone?

TAN Network: Thammasat University cancels classes at Ta Phrachan campus Mar 15-16 due to red shirt protests

Nation: Pheu Thai to hold urgent meeting of MPs Monday

TAN Network: Srinakarinไwiroj University cancels classes Mar 15-16

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Bangkok Post: Ministry: 46,000 people attend UDD rally

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Pheu Thai to hold urgent meeting of MPs Monday

BANGKOK: — The Pheu Thai Party will hold an urgent meeting of its MPs Monday to discuss the party’s stand on the government’s plan to declare the state of emergency, an MP said Sunday.

Worawat Uapinyakul, a Pheu Thai MP from Phrae, said the meeting will be held at 2:30 pm.

The meeting will discuss the current political situation related to the rally of the red-shirt people and the government’s plan to announce the state of emergency, he said.

The meeting would also discuss the party’s stand on the join sitting of MPs and senators to deliberate draft contracts for the government to sign with foreign countries, Worawat said.

— The Nation 2010-03-14

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Thai PM ask for cooperation for rallies to remain peaceful, dismiss coup rumours

In his weekly television programme on 14 March 2010, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva commented on a number of issues pertaining to the current situation in Bangkok.

The Prime Minister noted that the situation over the past two days since demonstrators started their rallies in Bangkok has been peaceful, and the demonstrations orderly. The number of demonstrators that gathered along Radjadamnern Avenue overnight did not exceed the Government’s estimation.

Recapping the Thai government’s approach and action in handling the demonstrations, the Prime Minister reemphasised that his Government respects people’s rights to peaceful assembly held in accordance with the law, and that it has no intention whatsoever of using violent means against the protestors. The invocation of the Internal Security Act, B.E. 2551 (2008) is intended to prevent unwarranted occurrences so that the public can carry on with their normal way of life and, should any disturbing situation occur, to enable state officials to resolve it in a timely manner and on the basis of the existing laws. Measures implemented such as the setting up of checkpoints are intended to ensure the safety of the public, including of the demonstrators themselves, not to stop people from joining the rallies, as based on intelligence reports, there could be certain elements who might exploit the situation and attempt to instigate disturbances. Be that as it may, should protesters cross the line established by the Administrative Court as to what constitutes peaceful assembly under the Constitution, such as by inciting violence or attempting to blockade government buildings or key locations, including airports, security officers would take action in a step-by-step manner in accordance with international standards, to resolve such a situation. The Prime Minister also gave assurances that security officers are well-trained and understand their modus operandi in how to handle demonstrations.

Meanwhile, coordination between the Government and the demonstrators has continued. Mr. Korbsak Sabhavasu, Secretary-General to the Prime Minister, has been liaising with Dr. Weng Tojiranond, one of the protest leaders. Thus far, the Government has endeavoured to accommodate as much as possible the wish of the demonstrators, such as by allowing those who insist in bringing their vehicles into the city to be able to do so despite earlier restrictions and changing security personnel guarding major protest areas from the military to police officers so as to alleviate the demonstrators’ concerns. Likewise, cooperation has been sought from the demonstrators to allow police officers to conduct weapon searches and to facilitate the Government’s contact with leaders of different protest groups, particularly those who, in the past, were associated with the use of violence.

Prime Minister Abhisit also urged the public to remain calm, vigilant and to notify officials of any suspicious activities. He also urged them to use their judgment in listening to rumours which have been spread through various media, including on-line ones. As for rumours that the Government is preparing to use the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergency Situation, B.E. 2548 (2005), the Prime Minister said that law could be used only when warranted, such as during the riots last April. Were it to be used, he stressed, measures to be undertaken must also be in accordance with international standards. As for rumours about a coup d’etat, he reaffirmed his opposition to a coup, noting that a coup is not a solution to any problem and would not benefit anyone. His administration and the armed forces work closely together and no one would want to see a coup. While military and police officers, like the general public, may have different political views, they work with professionalism and share the Government’s objective of working in the interest of the public. Had the Government tried to harm the people, the police and armed forces would not have rendered it their support.

In this regard, the Government would continue to communicate with the public and disseminate factual information about the situation, including through the newly established website, http://www.capothai.org.

The Prime Minister believed that if the situation over the next few days could be handled in a peaceful and orderly manner, then the Thai people would see it as the country’s democracy progressing to another level. The Government is ready to listen to the demonstrators’ views and grievances, and that any scrutiny on its performance could be done within the parliamentary framework. However, as for the demands that he resign and the House of Representatives be dissolved, it should be understood that this could be done, but it must be based on valid reasons. The present Government came to office through constitutional means and thus has every right to govern until its term expires by the end of 2011, although given how the democratic system work, the dissolution of the House could take place.

In addition, Prime Minister Abhisit assured the public that the ongoing demonstrations had not distract the Government from other work, including addressing difficulties facing the public, such as the drought and fluctuating prices of major agricultural produces.

Source: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Bangkok 2010-03-14

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BangkokDan: 300,000 ppl? 1 person / 1 sq m = 0.3 sq km; Rajdamnoen’s 50 m wide = tightly red for 6 km? Just asking

TAN_Network: DPM Suthep: Emergency decree to be used only if necessary;reds can surround 11th Infantry but cannot enter

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[Rosarin]

Thaksin’s supporters issue ultimatum to Thai government

BANGKOK: — Red-clad supporters of deposed Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra vowed Sunday to march on military barracks holding the government as they stepped up protests in Bangkok amid tight security.

Organisers of the “Red Shirts” said more than 100,000 people, mostly from the poor rural north, had converged near the capital’s government offices in their trademark tops, demanding Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva dissolve parliament.

The turnout was far lower than the “million man march” the Reds had predicted, but more than an official police estimate of fewer than 80,000 at the rally grounds in the politically divided kingdom.

The Red Shirts issued an ultimatum to the government, which it accuses of elitism and double standards, saying it must step down and call fresh elections within 24 hours or face mounting protests.

“We will leave here to listen to the government’s answer at the 11th Infantry Unit where the government is,” Red Shirt leader Natthawut Saikuar told reporters behind the rally stage.

“If they fail to answer our demands we will announce our next step,” he said.

Nattawut said most of the rally crowd would travel by car and on foot at 9am (0200 GMT) Monday, to the barracks on Bangkok’s northern outskirts, where the government has mounted a security operation with soldiers and police.

Authorities invoked a strict security law to oversee the rallies, allowing them to call out troops, ban gatherings and impose curfews. A 50,000-strong security force has been deployed across the capital and surrounding areas.

Protesters arriving by road and river throughout the day continued to pour into Bangkok’s historic quarter, where the crowd remained in jubilant spirits, waving red flags and foot-shaped clappers.

Some demonstrators, wearing red cowboy hats as a sign of their rural roots, had travelled for up to two days by pick-up truck and bus to reach the venue.

“This government says it will help but the money never reaches the people,” said food vendor Soon Boonpha, 47, who came from Maha Sarakham province in Thailand’s northeast.

Abhisit has rejected the calls for his resignation, saying on his weekly television show: “I have my right to complete my term.” He has until December 2011 to call elections.

He said he had “no plans to crack down” at the rally, which had so far been “peaceful and orderly.”

He nevertheless warned the public not to be complacent about the potential for violence, saying earlier this week that there could be “sabotage” and cancelling a weekend trip to Australia because of the protest.

The rally is the latest in a string of protests to rock the politically tumultuous nation, which is divided between Thaksin’s supporters and opponents.

The Red Shirts have held a number of rallies since Abhisit came to power in December 2008, after a court decision removed Thaksin’s allies from
government following an airport blockade by the royalist “Yellow Shirts.”

Sunday’s protest is at least the largest in Bangkok since the Reds rioted in April last year, leaving two dead and scores injured.

The rallies come two weeks after Thailand’s top court confiscated 1.4 billion dollars of Thaksin’s assets, and are the latest chapter in political turmoil that began when he was toppled in a 2006 coup.

Twice-elected Thaksin, who has been living mostly in Dubai to escape a two-year jail term for corruption at home, remains popular with the rural poor for
the populist policies he introduced after coming to power in 2001.

But he is loathed by the Yellow Shirts protest movement, which has the backing of Bangkok’s establishment, who accuse him of corruption and of disloyalty to the revered royal family.

The telecoms tycoon has been encouraging his supporters to attend Sunday’s rally using text messages and his Twitter page. On Saturday he left his main base in Dubai to travel to Europe, where he said he was meeting his two daughters.

Thaksin was due to address the rally by video link late Sunday.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-14
Published with written approval from AFP.

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[Rosarin]

NATION: Bkk Pattana school resumes on Mon till noon. Parents are advised to check the school website 1st in the morning for an update.

MCOT: Acting Police Chief: Security measures rise to highest level Sunday night

MCOT: Acting Police Chief: No obstruction of Red Shirt rally at 11th Infantry Regiment if no law violation

MCOT: German envoy to Thailand: Thaksin banned in Germany since 2009, will be arrested if identified; no confirmed report he uses another name

[sune]

Undrar vad det är för mening med att kopiera allt som står på thaivisa och lägga det här ? Är det nån som inte kan läsa där själv ?

[Rosarin]

Hej Sune!

Jaa du….bra fråga, men välkommen till forumet ska du vara.

Alla kanske inte vill läsa på thaivisa, men jag kan ju sluta att klippa in nyheter här så får alla läsa bäst dom vill vart dom vill.

[emic]

Rosarin fortsätt tack !
Jag tycker det är bra! dessutom när ni Thailandskunniga klämmer in någon kommentar ibland till nyhetsflödet.

Fortsätt i samma stil /emic

[Rosarin]

Hej!

Ok, Emic. 🙂
Jag är ju inte direkt “sköt dig själv och skit i andra-typen” så om det är hjälp för någon så fortsätter jag att klippa in nyheter här.

Just verkar det vara lugnt. Den enda notisen sedan sist är:

Bangkok Post: Thammasat closed Mar 15-16

Det kanske laddas för fullt inför morgondagen, vad vet jag.
Som ni säkert har förstått så har jag inte varit ute så himla mycket de här dagarna.
Nu verkar det iofs som om de röda ändå mest har hängt runt sina områden, men vem kunde veta att det skulle bli så.
I morgon kan det däremot hända att de sprider ut sig lite mer om nu inte PM Abhisit löser upp den sittande regeringen vid kl.12. Vilket jag inte tror.

Nu förstod ju inte jag vad han sa i sitt tal under kvällen i thailändsk tv men av det som har skrivits på Thaivisa så låter det som om han vill sitta kvar som folkvald PM hela sin period ut.
Det kan inte vara lätt att vara honom just nu.
Man får helt enkelt göra som det thailändska ordspråket: Sätta någon annans hjärta i sitt eget, för att bättre förstå och känna mer empati med andra.
På ren svenska: “Döm ingen innan du har gått några steg i deras skor”.

/Rosarin

[erikv]

@Thaisambo wrote:

@erikv wrote:

Till thaisambo

Så du menar att de gula ska också ut på gatorna demonstrera så att det blir upplopp o kravaller. Thai är inte som svenskar(fogliga o lite lagom) o det vet de flesta. Det finns ett temperament som lätt svallar över under detta leende ansikte. Du kan försöka med bara att förolämpa en så får du se vad som kan hända. Det finns ingen koppling till svenskheten.
MVH
erikv

Erikv,

Varför i all världen skulle jag koppla till svenskheten?

Den enda parallell jag gör är jämförelsen med strejksystemet i fackföreningssammanhang, där deltagarna genom strejkkassan får betalt för att strejka, och det system som används nu, där demonstranter får betalt för att demonstrera. I båda fallen är det den som sitter på pengarna som betalar.

Och att de gula inte eskalerar konflikten genom att hålla på med motdemonstrationer utan ligger lågt är uppenbart, det ser ut att vara en medveten strategi med flera bottnar. Varför skulle de överhuvudtaget bry sej om vad de röda gör? De röda kan gott få tömma sina demonstrationskassor så ebbar det ut likaväl som en arbetsmarknadskonflikt kan ebba ut därför att strejkkassan tar slut.

Du kan jämföra med våra kravaller, t ex 30 nov vid Karl XII:s staty i Stockholm, där allsköns grupperingar drabbar samman, nynazister, skinheads och diverse motdemonstranter. Här i Thailand går det lugnt till. Det är ingalunda som t ex IRA i Belfast även om de också använde bomber på sin tid. Och polisen gör allt för att hålla det nere och avväpnar, det gör man förresten i och för sej överallt där det finns konfliktrisk.

Tror Du verkligen på fullt allvar att thai går in för att förolämpa och provocera? De är ju buddhister i grunden – undviker konflikt helt enkelt och gör allt för att undvika konflikter eller eskalera sådana, det är inte konflikter thailändsk kultur handlar om.

Inte heller har detta med svenskar att göra eller ens med den i och för sig aggressiva kristenheten, det är kontraster.

Det jag talar om är vilka tämligen uppenbara strategier som kommer till användning och hur liknande strategier kommit till användning även på andra håll.

Det stora svenska misslyckandet är Ådalen kravallerna 1931, sen dess har man inte använt militära insatser mot civilbefolkningen i Sverige. Det är också en parallell och har med strategisk konflikthantering att göra. Eller tror Du på något sätt att thailändsk militär skulle gå in och börja skjuta hej vilt för att få slut på demonstrationen? Det är ju sådant man försöker undvika!

Nu har det som Du också skrivit tidigare i tråden uppstått inre söndring bland demonstranterna därför att något rykte om att ledande inom demonstrantverksamheten bland de röda skulle ha stoppat delar av demonstrationskassan i egen ficka. Om det verkligen är så eller inte spelar inte så stor roll, den konkreta effekten är att demoralisering och splittring uppstår bland demonstranterna. Det kan vara verklig information eller medveten desinformation – ett skolexempel på hur information kan användas för att utså split och söndring beroende på vad man vill åstadkomma.

Det är också därför man inte kan ha något förtroende för information under en pågående konflikt, det används som strategiska styrmedel för att få kontroll, ett mycket effektivt konflikthanteringsmedel för övrigt när vi nu lever i ett informationssamhälle.

Jag menade att svenska lynnet är inte i närheten av det thailänska. Det finns bevis för detta inom forumet också.
Man kan mörda för 200 Bth vilket en tok tok chaufför gjorde o jag har flera paralleller men det finns ingen anledning att ta upp.Buddist eller inte. Militären kommer bara ingripa i yttersta fall o det vill sig mycket till att de skulle börja skjuta på sina bröder o systrar. Jag tycker att de gula sköter sig exemplariskt när de bara är som åskådare. Detta är bara en maktkamp där oskyldiga människor används som spelbrickor. Visserligen har de fått en välbehövlig “semester” med vissa undantag(idealister). Förra upploppet är inte så långt borta där det hettade till. Det här med demoralisering tänker jag inte ens ta upp o allmänt tycker jag att din kännedom om thailändare verkar ganska kras. Slut på citat. Ingen återkoppling till detta ämne. Inget personligt
Från landet lagom
erikv

upp dessa. Du har väl inte glömt bort förra årets upplopp.

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Thaksin congratulates reds in advance for their victory;warns military not to stage coup

[Rosarin]

MCOT: Thaksin speaks via video link from unknown destination urging Red Shirts to rally peacefully

MCOT: Thaksin asks troops not to use force against unarmed demonstrators

[Rob]

my boss’wfie boss
she said about 2-3millon of redshirt in bkk now
she has to stay at the hotel couldn’t go back home,since the hotel in the area where there gathering
she called*

Cut n Paste ifrån MSN chatt med en Thailändsk vän. Betvivlar att det stämmer dock. Hon tvivlar också på att det stämmer. Kul att se vilka rykten som florerar på gatunivå dock.

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Jatuporn announces that reds will leave Pan Fah area at 9A.M.

THE NATION: one-hour Thaksin phone-in has ended. he didn’t say where he was, only “what” he was. Yes, “symbol of democracy”. He did say that.

THE NATION: You are not fighting for me, he said. You are fighting for democracy. he said he was a “symbol of democracy”.

THE NATION: He said the elites need not fear him. “I’m 1 million per cent Buddhist”. “I have a forgiving mind”.

THE NATION: “If a man like me can be persecuted, they can persecute you too. Will you allow that to happen?” Thaksin said.

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THE NATION: Thaksin said he never intended to overthrow monarchy. “Only the ammart (royal advisers) that I want to overthrow”.

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Thaksin rally to march on barracks housing Thai leaders

by Thanaporn Promyamyai

BANGKOK (AFP) — Anti-government demonstrators vowed Sunday to march on military barracks housing Thailand’s top leaders as their icon, deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, urged them from exile not to give up.

The red-clad protesters — assembled amid tight security in public spaces near government offices in Bangkok — have vowed to step up their campaign if the government does not dissolve parliament within 24 hours.

“We will leave here to listen to the government’s answer at the 11th Infantry Unit,” Red Shirt leader Nattawut Saikuar told reporters. “If they fail to answer our demands we will announce our next step.”

The Red Shirts, who stem largely from the country’s poor and support the populist Thaksin, had predicted a “million man march” but in the event said more than 100,000 protesters turned up Sunday. Police said there were 86,000.

Nattawut said the Reds would travel by bus, car and on foot on Monday morning to the army base on Bangkok’s northern outskirts, where the government has mounted a huge security operation with soldiers and police.

An army spokesman said security had been beefed up with hundreds of extra troops at the barracks, where Abhisit and other key ministers along with the country’s top brass were staying during the protests.

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, in charge of the country’s security, said the protesters would be permitted to approach the base.

“Protesters can circle the barracks but they must not obstruct traffic or intrude into the barracks or they will be arrested,” Suthep told reporters.

He said it was too early to say if emergency rule would be invoked to crackdown on the rally.

“We have to see how the situation develops but I reaffirm that we will act reasonably and appropriately,” he added.

The Red Shirts are loyal to former prime minister Thaksin, who was ousted in a coup in 2006 and is living abroad, mostly in Dubai, to escape a jail term for corruption.

Last month Thailand’s top court confiscated 1.4 billion dollars of his wealth.

“I ask all Red Shirts not to give up. Don’t worry about me. This is not a one-person issue, we all fight for justice. I am the victim of bullies among the elites,” Thaksin told the rally in a 50-minute address by video link.

Thaksin did not specify where he was but on his Twitter page Saturday said he was flying to see his daughters in Europe.

The authorities have deployed a 50,000-strong security force across Bangkok and its surrounds to oversee the rallies, and invoked a strict security law that allows them to call out troops, ban gatherings and impose curfews.

Protesters arrived by road and river throughout the day at Bangkok’s historic quarter, where the crowd remained in jubilant spirits, waving red flags and foot-shaped clappers.

Some, wearing red cowboy hats as a sign of their rural roots, had travelled for two days by pick-up truck and bus to reach the venue.

“This government says it will help but the money never reaches the people,” said food vendor Soon Boonpha, 47, who came from Maha Sarakham province in Thailand’s northeast.

Abhisit has rejected the calls for his resignation and cancelled a weekend trip to Australia.

It is the latest in a string of protests to rock the politically turbulent nation, which is divided between Thaksin’s supporters and opponents.

And Sunday’s demonstration is the largest in Bangkok since the Reds rioted last April, leaving two dead and scores injured.

Twice-elected Thaksin remains popular for his anti-poverty policies after coming to power in 2001, but he is loathed by Bangkok’s establishment, which accuses him of corruption and disloyalty to the revered royal family.

The Red Shirts have held a number of rallies since Abhisit came to power in December 2008, after a court decision removed Thaksin’s allies from government following an airport blockade by rival “Yellow Shirts.”

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-14
Published with written approval from AFP.

[Rosarin]

@Rob wrote:

my boss’wfie boss
she said about 2-3millon of redshirt in bkk now
she has to stay at the hotel couldn’t go back home,since the hotel in the area where there gathering
she called*

Cut n Paste ifrån MSN chatt med en Thailändsk vän. Betvivlar att det stämmer dock. Hon tvivlar också på att det stämmer. Kul att se vilka rykten som florerar på gatunivå dock.

Oj det var som tusan!!
Det har varit ganska tyst om antalet sedan BkkDan på Thaivisa sa ca 300 000st demonstranter.
Iofs så verkar det strömma till en hel del hela tiden, men så många som 2-3 miljoner låter ju jätteläskigt!
De planerar ju att sprida ut sig och ta över stan i morgon ifall PM Abhisit inte upplöser regeringen. Då lär de nog behöva vara rätt så många.

Jag håller med om att det är intressant att höra tankar och kommentarer ifrån vanliga thaiar, inte bara media och tv.
Så tack för inlägget. 🙂

/Rosarin 🙂

[Rosarin]

Bangkokpundit: Abhisit on NBT: Rules on lawful protest are set out per Supreme Admin Court decision. Can’t take over govt buildings etc.

Abhisit on NBT: Checkpoints are necessary to check weapons, not to prevent ppl to enter. Wish to thank protesters for cooperating

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Bangkokpundit: NBT is pure political propaganda. Its reporting is so one-sided it merely functions as the media arm of the govt. Watch ThaiPBS

JOINT SESSION
MPs unhappy with joint sitting tomorrow

Published on March 15, 2010

Democrat Party MPs voiced astonishment yesterday at Parliament President Chai Chidchob’s call for a session of the both chambers tomorrow, amid concerns of possible violence if red-shirt protesters try to besiege the compound.

Ong-art Klampaiboon, a Democrat MP for Bangkok, said his fellow MPs had told the chief coalition whip Witthaya Kaewparadai they disagreed with the move. They want him to consult with his counterparts from other coalition parties before informing Chai of their decision.

But Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij said if Chai went ahead with the meeting, the Democrats were ready to offer full cooperation.

Deputy party spokesman Warong Dejkijwikrom said the Democrats were urging Chai to postpone the meeting as the political situation was sensitive.

Senator Rosana Tositrakul said she had talked to several colleagues and they felt it was not right to hold a meeting at Parliament now. They fear a repeat of the bloody clash in front of Parliament on October 7, 2008.

House Secretary-General Phitoon Phumhiran said Chai ordered the meeting because several matters needed urgent deliberation by the two chambers and the Senate was always busy but would be free tomorrow.

Phitoon said Chai had so far not issued a postponement.

But if MPs and senators can get a quorum, the meeting could be rescheduled, he said.

Government spokesman Panitan Wattanayakorn said the meeting was requested by the Finance Ministry to approve draft contracts with foreign countries.

The Finance Ministry may talk with Chai about delaying the debate, he said.

Cabinet Secretary-General Surachai Phuprasert said the prime minister had already cancelled tomorrow’s weekly Cabinet meeting because of the joint sitting.

The Pheu Thai Party said its MPs would meet today to discuss the joint sitting as well as the red-shirt rally.

Source: The Nation – 2010-03-14

[dissidenten]

Hej!

Jag var i BKK under kuppen 2006 och likaså vid förra årets tumult kring regeringskvarteren.. Ett tips till er i BKK. Lämna inte staden, risken är stor att ni inte kommer in igen om det blir oroligt. Det ligger ju nära till hands att armen slår en järnring runt staden och då står man där… Om man som jag hade sitt bohag i BKK är det ingen höjdare, men kan man ta sitt pick och pack och sitta i Isaan en stund och uggla så funkar det ju. Men fy fan för att sitta i Isaan..

Nä, ni som är nere, sitt lugnt i båten. Se till att ha lite extra cash ifall dom hittar på något med ATM. Varför skulle dom det? Thailand är svaret. I ett land där man anulleras från folkbokföringen om man inte röstat är det lika logiskt att stänga ner ATM för att någon pajas tror att landet är hotat..

Håll er i dom lugna områdena och undvik åka någonstans (osäker man kommer tillbaka).. Ta en paraplydrink och skratta åt eländet!

// dissen

[Fender]

Enligt regeringen är det drygt 46.000 rödskjortor som demonstrerar…Lite väl lågt kanske. BBC uppskattade till en början antalet till ca 80.000. Senast idag sade de dock “tens of thousands” så det verkar som om även BBC börjar uppskatta antalet som mindre än vad de tidigare trott. “tens of thousands” verkar ju mindre är “close to a hundred thousand”..I alla fall, l¨ngt från 1 miljon såklart.
Blir svårt att motivera att de representerar “folket” med så “få” demonstranter.

[Rosarin]

Fortästter väl med måndagen här efter Göran tycker att det är onödigt med så många trådar om samma änmne.
Själv tyckte jag det var lättare för dem som ville läsa att direkt hitta och se vad som har hänt dag för dag.

MÅNDAG 15 mars, BKK:

Nation: It’s obviously “day and night” thing now. Numbers of protesters at Rajadamnoen have ballooned back considerably.

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Nation: Red leader Arisman has played on stage THAT doctored audio clip of Abhisit asking Army to crack down on people.

Nation: What a shame. Thaksin should fire this guy. Seriously.

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Army base targeted
By The Nation

BANGKOK: — March to Bang Khen starts at 9am, but protests likely at many sites

Red shirt protesters plan to storm the 11th Infantry Regiment – the government’s “war room” and safe house – if Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva does not dissolve Parliament by today, to try to achieve its goal of toppling the “aristocrat-backed” government.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva rejected the reds’ demand, saying yesterday his government had the right to stay in office until the end of the current electoral term – late next year.

“Dissolving Parliament or the resignation of a government is a normal practice in the democratic system. I have no problem with that, but how can we dissolve the Parliament to have a snap election when our politics is still in deep divide and conflict?” he said.

The next election, if there was one, would have to go through violence because many people were dissatisfied with the electoral rules, he said.

The red shirts claim Abhisit has no legitimacy to stay in power as his Democrat Party did not win the previous election. They have mobilised a large mob in an effort to bring his administration down.

Prime Minister Abhisit, Privy Council President General Prem Tinsulanonda and Army chief General Anupong Paochinda are using the the 11th Infantry Regiment compound as a “safe house” during the protest.

The huge red-shirt group will start marching from Rajdamnoen Avenue – the main protest site – at 9am via Victory Monument and walk along Phaholyothin Road to the infantry regiment in Bang Khen district.

Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said the protesters would not break into the army compound or surround it for a long time but would protest at many spots – follow Prime Minister Abhisit everywhere he goes.

Another leader, Jatuporn Promphan, said he learned that the military boosted its force at the infantry regiment to 7,000 troops, and prepared anti-riot equipment such as water cannons and tear gas for possible use against the protesters.

A military source confirmed that the Army has brought an additional 20 companies of troops to the infantry regiment to protect government leaders and military commanders.

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsubhan was seen yesterday with Army chief Anupong and commanders inspecting troops’ readiness at the compound.

“We are here to protect the law and democracy. We don’t see the protestors as the enemy but we have to prevent them from breaking the law,” Suthep told the troops.

“This is the first ever, soldiers, that you have to perform your duty without weapons. I know it is every difficult, but we have to do it.”

Lt General Daophong Ratanasuwan, deputy Army chief of staff, said the military would try its best not to use violence against the protesters. He told soldiers to exercise utmost restraint and not to use force even if protesters provoke them.

Red shirt protesters continued to arrive from the provinces to the capital yesterday to join the rally. Their leaders claim that 300,000 people have massed but the authorities gave a more conservative figure – 52,000.

Former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who is de facto leader of the red-shirt group, phoned in to the rally’s main stage at Rajdamnoen Avenue last night. He asked supporters who could not get to Bangkok to set up separate rallies in their provinces to help pressure the government.

The red shirts had been moulded into a solidarity movement, he said in a 45 minute speech.

Troops were based at many locations around Rajdamnoen Ave near the protest site including Thammasat University’s Tha Prachan campus where a company of soldiers was, a university official said.

Prime Minister Abhisit said his government respected the red shirts’ right of assembly in accordance with the Constitution, as long as they protest peacefully.

The Constitution Court set guidelines in 2008 that gave protesters constitutional protection as long as they demonstrate peacefully and under a legal framework, he said.

— The Nation 2010-03-15
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Reds get a mixed reception

BANGKOK: — More red-shirt protesters poured into Bangkok yesterday – to a mixed welcome. Workers in the capital who are migrants from elsewhere cheered them on, while those better off appeared indifferent.

A convoy of about 100 vehicles, mostly pickup trucks, led by some 500 red shirts on foot, advanced slowly on Sukhumvit Road in the early afternoon, blocking some traffic.

They were greeted by mostly blue-collar workers such as clerks and security guards, who waved at them.

“I’m not surprised [by the number and the welcome],” said Sombat, a 30-something security guard at the Maneeya office building.

“I’ll also join them after work. It’s up to [the government] now [whether to dissolve the House]. This is all we can do,” he said while watching the procession at about 1.40pm from the overhead walkway to the Chitlom Skytrain station.

Sombat, who hails from Nakhon Pathom, said he hoped the government would not use force against the reds.

Many more supporters in Bangkok would join the protest in the evening after work, he said.

Nearby, two higher-paid Skytrain staff were not as enthusiastic.

“I thought that was it. But where on earth did they come from again?” one said, referring to the waves of red shirts who passed along Sukhumvit yesterday from Bang Na intersection to the main rally downtown on Rajdamnoen Avenue.

“I guess [the protest] will drag on,” he said.

“Dangerous,” said a woman Skytrain official who stood next to him as they watched the protesters from above being cheered on by some workers along the street below.

A red-shirt media outlet reported in the afternoon that some protesters riding longtail boats along Saen Saeb Canal were hit by objects thrown by hostile city residents.

A group of protesters went to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva’s residence to submit a letter calling for him to either resign or disband the House – a tactic viewed by red-shirt leader Somyos Pruksakemsuk as an additional step to pressure the government.

Somyos said he feared the reds would be criticised more today, as their presence would cause many traffic delays.

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Motorists advised to avoid roads near red-shirt rally site

BANGKOK: — The Metropolitan Police Bureau Sunday advised motorists to avoid roads that are near the demonstration site of the red-shirt people.

Pol Maj Gen Phanu Kerdlarpphol, deputy commissioner of the bureau, said motorists should avoid Uthong Nai Road and Rajdamnoen Road as well as other roads that intersect with Si Ayutthaya and Phitsanulok from Government House to Wang Daeng Intersection.

He said the motorists should also avoid using Rama VIII Bridge, Pin Klao Bridge and Krungthon Bridge because of the closure of six roads – Rajdamnoen Klang, Rajdamnoen Nok, Mahchai, Nakhon Sawan, Larn Luang, Uthong Nai and Phitsanulok.

— The Nation 2010-03-15
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Pheu Thai to hold urgent meeting of MPs Monday

BANGKOK: — The Pheu Thai Party will hold an urgent meeting of its MPs Monday to discuss the party’s stand on the government’s plan to declare the state of emergency, an MP said Sunday.

Worawat Uapinyakul, a Pheu Thai MP from Phrae, said the meeting will be held at 2:30 pm.

The meeting will discuss the current political situation related to the rally of the red-shirt people and the government’s plan to announce the state of emergency, he said.

The meeting would also discuss the party’s stand on the join sitting of MPs and senators to deliberate draft contracts for the government to sign with foreign countries, Worawat said.

— The Nation 2010-03-15
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Reds Expect to Arrive at 11th Infantry Regiment at Noon

BANGKOK: — The red-shirt protesters are planning to start their march to the 11th Infantry Regiment on Paholyothin Road at 9 a.m. today and should arrive there by noon.

It is still not known which route they will take but they’ve promised to leave at least 1 lane open to traffic. The traffic police are adjusting traffic plans hourly to avoid congestion for motorists.

The 11th Infantry Regiment has installed more CCTVs in anticipation of the rally.
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CONVICTED EX-PM
Thaksin warns army chief not to crack down on protesters

BANGKOK: — Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday warned Army Chief Gen Anupong Paochinda not to crack down on the Red Shirted protesters. He also cautioned Gen Prayuth Chan-Ocha, the deputy army chief, against any temptation to stage a military coup.

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“Let me pass on my message to Prayuth. I have heard that you’re so prepared to use force. Don’t do it. Don’t ever think of staging a coup,” Thaksin said.

He also told Gen Anupong not to use force to crack down on the Red Shirted protesters, who are staging a demonstration to repair democracy and to rid Thailand of the “ammat (elite) system”.

From an unknown place, Thaksin was phoning into his Red Shirted supporters in the evening as he sought to woo their support to bring about a political change. Some 65,000 to 70,000 Red Shirted protesters were gathering at Phan Fa Bridge, to call for Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to step down or dissolve Parliament to pave the way for a new election.

Wearing a pullover light brown shirt, with a red collar, Thaksin spoke into a web cam that transmitted his picture to the Red Shirted audience. He also wore a pair of glass, with a tiny silver frame. His hair looked unnatural, almost like a wig.

Thaksin called on the Red Shirted protesters to wait for the next 24 hours when the deadline for Abhisit to dissolve the House is met. If Abhisit fails to do it, they would need to listen to further instruction of the core leaders.

A giant stage was erected at the Phan Fa Bridge where the red shirts began yesterday to fortify their street demonstrations. Jatuporn Phromphand, one of their leaders, declared that the red shirts would finish off the Abhisit government within four days.

Thaksin, once again, accused Gen Prem Tinsulanonda, the president of the Privy Council, as the man behind his downfall. He repeated a story that the elite were afraid of his political popularity so they came up with all attempts, including a 2006 military coup, rid him from power. The elite were also behind a series of political manouvre to undermine his party and supporters.

“The ammat were the problem of the country. They are behind all the rumours so that they can continue to maintain their power,” he said.

Thaksin also accused the Abhisit government as the most corrupted and ignoring the plight of the Thai people.

He also referred to the death of Pol Col Sompien Eksomya, who was killed by the southern insurgents in a bomb attack on Friday, as representing the failure of Abhisit to handle police transfer properly. Pol Col Sompien had asked for a transfer out of Bannangsta, Yala, to Trang after serving the police department for 39 years. His transfer got stuck in the bureaucratic procedure.

He said the government has brought into Bangkok and distributed arms to the military force from the upcountry at the largest number ever to deal with the Red Shirts.

“But the military has a duty to defend the country – not to crack down on the people,” Thaksin said.

— The Nation 2010-03-15
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TAN Network: 8 armored trucks used to secure building where National Peacekeeping Command is located

TAN Network: As many as 34 companies of soldiers guarding National Peacekeeping Command

TAN Network: Reds start to set up procession to 11th Infantry; prepared to move at 9 A.M.
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Reds Expected to Use Victory Monument and Paholyothin Rd for March

Red-shirt leaders have not revealed the route they will use to march to the 11th Infantry Regiment on Paholyothin Road but it will most likely be Ratchadamnoen Avenue to Victory Monument and onto Paholyothin Road.

The authorities are meeting at the 11th Infantry Regiment to discuss their plans to handle the red-shirt protest.

The traffic police are expecting to close off roads to be used by the red-shirts for their march. Traffic has been good so far this morning as less vehicles are seen on the roads.

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TAN Network: Army spokesperson: All government agencies estimate number of protesters at no more than 90,000

TAN_Network: Army spokesperson on FM101: Protesters might tire themselves out by tomorrow at the latest

Army Spokesperson: 11th Infantry contains large weapons arsenal; will protect it at all costs

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TAN Network:
More than 500 motorcycles and 50 pick up trucks used to lead red procession
Some protesters left at Pan Fah Bridge to guard stage;most to proceed to 11th Infantry

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Thaksin rally to doorstep Thai government at army base

by Thanaporn Promyamyai

BANGKOK: (AFP) – Tens of thousands of Thai protesters loyal to deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra were to march on an army base housing the government on Monday, as they stepped up their street campaign.

Hundreds of extra troops were deployed at the barracks on the northern outskirts of Bangkok after the protesters, decked out in their signature red shirts, told the government it must dissolve parliament or face further protests.

At least 86,000 “Red Shirts” began their rally close to ministry offices at midday on Sunday amid tight security, and gave Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva 24 hours to meet their demands.

“We will leave here to listen to the government’s answer at the 11th Infantry Unit,” Red Shirt leader Nattawut Saikuar told reporters on Sunday. “If they fail to answer our demands we will announce our next step,” he said.

The Red Shirts had dubbed their rally a “million man march” but police estimated their numbers reached only 86,000 while protest leaders said they had more than 100,000.

A 50,000-strong security force including soldiers and riot police was deployed across Bangkok and surrounding provinces ahead of the rally, under a strict law that allows authorities to ban gatherings and impose curfews.

Most of the Red Shirts were expected to leave their site for the barracks at 9:00 am, travelling by bus, car and on foot to put pressure on Abhisit and the country’s top brass who are all based there during the protests.

Abhisit has rejected the calls for his resignation and cancelled a weekend trip to Australia as the rally approached.

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, in charge of the country’s security, said the protesters would be permitted to approach the base but could not trespass onto it, and would not be permitted to obstruct traffic nearby.

He said it was too early to say if emergency rule would be invoked to crackdown on the rally.

“We have to see how the situation develops but I reaffirm that we will act reasonably and appropriately,” Suthep said.

The Red Shirts are loyal to former prime minister Thaksin, who was ousted in a coup in 2006 and is living abroad, mostly in Dubai, to avoid a jail term for corruption.

Twice-elected Thaksin remains popular for his anti-poverty policies after coming to power in 2001, but he is loathed by Bangkok’s establishment, which accuses him of corruption and disloyalty to the revered royal family.

Last month Thailand’s top court confiscated 1.4 billion dollars of the telecoms tycoon’s wealth and he addressed the crowd by video link late Sunday, urging his supporters to press on.

“I ask all Red Shirts not to give up. Don’t worry about me. This is not a one-person issue, we all fight for justice. I am the victim of bullies among the elites,” Thaksin said from an unspecified location in Europe.

Since the coup in 2006, Thailand has been wracked by a string of protests by the Red Shirts and their rival Yellow Shirts, whose campaign in 2008 led to a crippling nine-day blockade of the country’s airports.

This rally is the largest in Bangkok since the Reds rioted in April last year, leaving two dead and scores injured.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-15
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BANGKOK: — The first confrontations between the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), aka the red-shirts, and Thailand government security forces is expected to occur later this morning as tens of thousands of protesters move from the rally stage at Phan Pha Bridge on Rajdamnoen Avenue to the 11th infantry regiment at Bangkhen.

With its limited finances rapidly dwindling, the red-shirt leadership is becoming increasingly desperate to achieve results and yesterday signaled its intention to besiege the army base where Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has set up a “war room” to monitor the protest.

After giving the government of Mr. Abhisit a 24-hour ultimatum to dissolve parliament and call fresh elections, key red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan late yesterday said the red-shirts will not wait for the deadline to expire before taking the protest to the Prime Ministers doorstep.

A fleet of six-wheel trucks fitted with the signature over-size loudspeakers and amplifiers of Thai political protests has been assembled close to the main rally stage overnight, and this morning UDD workers were busily making last minute preparations for the vehicles to get underway.

Yesterday afternoon Mr. Jatuporn said: “We will be out the front of Mr. Abhisit’s hiding place by midday unless he agrees to dissolve the parliament and hold elections. We will start moving from here (the Rajdamnoen Avenue rallying area) starting at 9am and by midday will have the [military] base surrounded.”

At the same time as red-shirt leaders were announcing their decision to take their protest on the road, the Government was contemplating declaring a state of emergency, a move that would significantly escalate tension in the capital where expectations of of riotous clashes between security forces and protesters has seen Bangkok’s notorious traffic jams replaced by almost empty streets and malls devoid of shoppers.

The scene in front of the rally’s stage at Phan Pha Bridge was considerably empty this morning, with many protesters hunkered down in their marquees having breakfast and making preparations to move to army base.

Yesterday Royal Thai Army spokesman Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd said an additional 20 companies of troops – about 3,500 soldiers – had been sent to protect the 11th Infantry Regiment in Bangkhen district against any invasion by red-shirts.

Last night Thailand deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban and army chief General Anupong Paojinda visited the 11th infantry regiment and urged soldiers there to exercise utmost restraint while carrying out their duty.

Early this morning police said they expected traffic to be heavily congested in the Viphavadi-Rangsit and Phaholyothin areas as the red-shirt convoy took to the roads.

— thaivisa.com 2010-03-15
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TAN Network: National Peacekeeping Command sets up 7 steps in prep including soldiers/shields, water, vocal warning, tear gas, clubs,rubber bullets
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TAN Network: National Peacekeeping Command sets up 7 steps in prep including soldiers/shields, water, vocal warning, tear gas, clubs,rubber bullets

THE NATION: Motorists advised to avoid Victory Monument, Phetchaburi, Phaholoyotihn

THE NATION: Thanpuying Wiriya visits protesters

TAN Network: INN: Red shirt protesters start to leave the Pan Fah area

Thaivisa: Thousands of red-shirt protesters have boarded trucks at the rally site in preparation for moving to Bangkhen

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First group of red shirts reach Lard Prao Intersection

At 9 am Monday, the front part of the red-shirt procession reached the Lard Prao Intersection on their way to the 11th Infantry Regiment in Bang Khen, TNN Channel reported.

The front part is comprised of protesters on motorcycles.

They stopped at the Intersection to wait for other protesters, who were travelling on pick-up trucks and other vehicles.

The protesters plan to reach the 11th Infantry Regiment at noon when the 24-hour deadline for the government to dissolve the House expires.

— The Nation 2010-03-15
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MCOT: Red Shirts begin moving to 11th Infantry Regiment’s Bangkhen headquarters to await PM’s response to House dissolution demand

MCOT: Red Shirt ‘column’ moves to army unit to await PM’s answer on House dissolution

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Lardprao Road Closed by Red March

The convoy of red-shirt protesters to the 11th Infantry Regiment has closed off the Lardprao Road area in front of the Central Department Store to wait for the rest of the protesters.

— TAN Network
2010-03-15
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ANALYSIS
Govt putting the ball in Reds’ court
By Tulsathit Taptim
The Nation

Thaksin Shinawatra’s rivals may have caught his mood swings. Or they may have just seen things differently between day and night.

Yesterday’s decision against imposing a state of emergency was based as much on the feeling of having an upperhand as on principles. The red shirts, the government may have concluded, were not as overwhelming as they had first looked.

So, Prime Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva is throwing the ball back into the red shirts’ court. Today’s noon deadline for the movement’s House dissolution ultimatum will pass, forcing the red shirts to decide what to do next. The movement has announced a plan to besiege the 11th Infantry Regiment headquarters, but the real question is what they are prepared to do afterwards.

It had been awe-inspiring on Saturday, with thousands of trucks adorned with red flags pouring into the city. Night scenes at the Rajadamnoen Avenue seemed even more worrisome for the government. “Reds seize city” one newspaper headline screamed. Other headlines indicated that the Abhisit administration would be the one who blinked first _ through the enforcement of a state of emergency.

It might have been the heat, which probably drove many protesters temporarily away. Or it could have been a miscount on the first day. And don’t overlook such simplest logistical issues as toilets. Whatever the reasons were, the number of protesters appeared to drop significantly during the day yesterday. By most accounts, it was below 100,000. All of a sudden, the goal of half a million-strong unheaval looked highly unrealistic.

Make no mistake. It can be a yellow-shirt style of energy-saving rally. The strong would stay put under scorching sun while the rest would take turn and show up in full force when the weather is kinder. Yet here are villagers from upcountry who don’t know their way around that much, so their mobility will be far more limited.

There have been calls and approvals for reinforcements, sources said. Pheu Thai MPs, who had been said to be reluctant to mobilize their constituents for the rally for fear of having to spend from their own pockets, were said to be ready now to pitch in. The financial pipeline, a key issue for this whole campaign, may have been unclogged.

What dictated the stand-off remained both sides’ fear of being seen as the villain in the event of a bloodshed. In this aspect, the government has more time than the red shirts, who will naturally get desperate fast if the confrontation drags on and the MPs cannot bring in substantial extra protesters.

As for the government, the military has been firmly on its side. One little worry has to do with what game the coalition partners are playing. News reports suggested the allies are not ready to jump ship, at least for now. If the solidarity is confirmed, this will leave the red shirts with two increasingly implausible scenarios of victory: An upheaval of 500,000 people or a bloody turmoil that somehow enables a pro-Thaksin coup to succeed.

Desperation calls for not only desperate measures, but also despserate rumours. One of the far-fetched gossips had a key red shirted figure being “sacrificed” _ killed to be exact _ so as to re-inflame anger, hatred and passion. Ridiculous as it may sound, this story, according to red insiders, did worry the “three buddies” who are the movement’s leaders.

Is it easier to, say, besiege the stock market or do some other things to paralyze Bangkok physically and financially? Again, analysts say a lot will depend on the “human resources”. Satellite operations carry the danger of the movement getting scattered and then neutralized easily if nobody is left to defend the main rallying site.

It’s too soon to discuss the red shirts’ “graceful exit” just after two days of their campaign. The political situation has shown its ability to swing like Thaksin’s moods. The man made a substantial phone-in last night, after his travels had forced him to have only brief contacts with his supporters since their most crucial campaign began. He urged them to fight on and they responded reassuringly. But deep down, both must have known that they badly needed a catalyst and they needed it fast.

— The Nation 2010-03-15
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Thaivisa: The large red-shirt convoy is being flanked by hundreds of black-suited red-shirt guards as it inches its way through early morning Bangkok traffic, resulting in a kilometers long traffic jam

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TAN Network: PM to address the country before noon deadline
Thaivisa: convoy proceeding along Si Ayutthaya. Traffic grid locked on cross roads
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Thaivisa: PM now speaking on all TV channels

TAN Network: PM: Will not dissolve Parliament but will listen to protesters’ grievances

TAN Network: PM: Dissolving Parliament and holding elections will not solve the whole problem

TAN Network: PM: Fixing the problem will take more time than noon today;will also have to listen to other groups which haven’t joined the protests

PM: Some info used on protest stage provocative and untrue. Some groups want to incite violence

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PM’s Live Address

BANGKOK: — PM Abhisit Vejjajiva said he met with coalition partners this morning as protesters’ demands are political. They agreed that this administration was democratically elected into power according to the parliamentary system with a majority vote, similar to the previous 2 administrations.

He said the administration has been able to spur economic recovery and run the country in the past 1 year and 3 months in office.

He added the protesters’ demand for a House dissolution before noon today is seen as impossible. However, this does not mean the government will not listen to the protesters and the general public. The government’s objective is not to remain in power but is to see the country move forward, like what the public wants.

He noted we all want to see peace in the long-run.

The PM said a House dissolution is a solution when there is a political divide in Parliament or when a crisis arises that can only be solved by a general election. However, a House dissolution and a general election seem to be only part of the conditions of the protesters. Protest speeches show the issue at hand is beyond the government.

Abhist reiterated a general election that will end all conflict must be based on regulations accepted by everyone, which cannot be achieved by noon today.

— Tan Network 2010-03-15
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[Rosarin]

TAN Network: PM: Will go with Transport Minister to check traffic suitation in Bkk via helicopter;expect protesters to go to several locations

BMA officials start cleaning up garbage and waste at/around Royal Plaza left by protesters

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PM expresses concern protest leaders use false information to incite violence

BANGKOK: — He said the red-shirt leaders had been using doctored audio clips during the rally Sunday night to try to deceive the protesters that he ordered the use of force against them.

Abhisit said the government had no plan to use force against the protesters. He said the enforcement of the Internal Security Act was aimed at keeping law and order, not for suppressing the protesters.

The prime minister said his government would try its best to avoid clashing with the protesters.

He made the announcement, broadcast live on TV, following the meeting with coalition partners’ leaders.

— The Nation 2010-03-15

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BangkokDan: Currently a few hundred proteters in front of army headquarters

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PM turns down UDD´s request to dissolve house

BANGKOK (NNT) – Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva assured that House dissolution will not take place by Monday noon, in response to the request made by the anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD).

Speaking at the 11th Infantry Regiment, the prime minister gave a press conference to elaborate his refusal to comply with the demand of the UDD after a meeting with leaders and representatives of the coalition parties. He reasoned that the government had come to power via a legitimate parliamentary process in the democratic system under the constitutional monarchy.

Prime Minister Abhisit said the refusal to dissolve the house at present did not mean that the government would not heed demands and opinions of the public, including the UDD. He confirmed that the target of the government was not to stay long in power but to move the nation forward.

The prime minister explained that a fresh election must be held peacefully under the law accepted by all sides, and the answer to such issue could not be made within midday as desired by the UDD.

Prime Minister Abhisit then promised that the government would manage the situation under the security law with respect to the rights of the UDD to move under the constitution. He stressed that the government had no initiatives to provoke violence or disperse the demonstration but would try its best to restore the situation.

The prime minister also voiced concerns with political speeches of the UDD as well as provocation to violence and clashes. He said many points made by the UDD at present were targeting beyond the government.

Meanwhile, thousands of UDD supporters are gathering in front of the 11th Infantry Regiment, and more are marching from their main rally site at Phan Fa Bridge.

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[Rosarin]

Metropolitan Police Warns about Speeches on Stage

The Metropolitan Police held its daily press conference on the red-shirt rally, estimating the rallygoers at 90,000 as of last night. It said checkpoints found no weapons last night.

The police also warned the protesters against making statements that could constitute instigating chaos or libel on the rally stage as the speaker will be prosecuted.

The police also affirmed no double standards for protesters.

— Tan Network 2010-03-15

[Rosarin]

MCOT: PM leaves 11th Infantry Regiment by helicopter to observe traffic flow as UDD moves to army unit, fills, blocks Phahonyothin Road
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Last Part of Red-Shirt Convoy Leaves Larnluang Rd

At 10.40 a.m. reports came in that the last part of the red-shirt convoy to the 11th Infantry Regiment has just left Larnluang Road and is headed to Victory Monument to join the rest of the protesters who are already at the 11th Infantry Regiment.

— TAN
2010-03-15

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: INN: Red shirt leaders in Chiang Mai are rallying their supporters to surround City Hall; Khon Kean doing the same
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[Rosarin]

Army announcer speaks to red shirts in NE dialect

BANGKOK: — An army announcer tried to calm down the red-shirt protesters in front of the 11th Infantry Regiment by speaking in i-saan dialect.

Addressing the protesters through loudspeakers, the announcer said in the northeast dialect as: “Let’s hear the voice of red-shirt people. Let’s hear the sound of clapping feet.”

The announcer pleaded with the red-shirt protesters to regard soldiers as their children and rally peacefully.

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TAN Network: DAAD Leader Veera: If military officials don’t stop using broadcast truck, protesters will cut off electricity supply to infantry

THE NATION: Just done with a news meeting. A consensus is red protesters have behave really well so far.

THE NATION: They even wait for traffic lights on their travels in the city.

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About 1,000 red shirts maintain position at Phan Fa

BANGKOK — After the main procession of the red-shirt protesters left to rally outside the 11th Infantry Regiment, some 1,000 protesters maintained ground at the Phan Fa Bridge.

Jatuporn Promphan told them to maintain the position to prevent the government’s securities from seizing the area.

He said if the authorities move in to seize control of the area, the red-shirt protesters would move back from Bang Khen to seize the Phan Fa area back.

— The Nation 2010-03-15

[Rosarin]

About 1,000 red shirts maintain position at Phan Fa

BANGKOK — After the main procession of the red-shirt protesters left to rally outside the 11th Infantry Regiment, some 1,000 protesters maintained ground at the Phan Fa Bridge.

Jatuporn Promphan told them to maintain the position to prevent the government’s securities from seizing the area.

He said if the authorities move in to seize control of the area, the red-shirt protesters would move back from Bang Khen to seize the Phan Fa area back.

— The Nation 2010-03-15
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About 1,000 red shirts maintain position at Phan Fa

BANGKOK — After the main procession of the red-shirt protesters left to rally outside the 11th Infantry Regiment, some 1,000 protesters maintained ground at the Phan Fa Bridge.

Jatuporn Promphan told them to maintain the position to prevent the government’s securities from seizing the area.

He said if the authorities move in to seize control of the area, the red-shirt protesters would move back from Bang Khen to seize the Phan Fa area back.

— The Nation 2010-03-15

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[Bkk]

Rapport från Sanam Luang och Rachadamnoen idag vid 11-tiden:

Såg en enda patrullbåt på floden idag, 10 igår. Vid Sanam Luang mycket lugnt, i södra änden i stort sett folktomt. I norra änden sitter en del röd-tröjor under ett stort tält, färre än 100. Det var fler munkar än röd-tröjor idag, faktiskt.

Rachadamnoen har öppnats för trafik idag i västra änden. Begränsad framkomlighet dock, eftersom två filer närmst trottoaren är belamrade med tält och salustånd, rastplatser för de röda mm. Det går att köra bil ända fram till Demokratimonumentet och runt detsamma, men inte fortsätta längre österut till Phan Faa med bil. Avspärrat, men jag tog mig igenom med cykel. Ganska lite folk framför scen idag, uppskattningsvis 1.000 personer bara. Verkar som alla demonstranterna är och vilar någon annanstans – de har nog hållt igång hela natten (jag har hört agitationen eka från högtalarna, då jag bor i närheten). Annars är demonstrationen på väg att upplösas från denna plats?

Hur som helst, mycket lugnt, och få rödtröjor i omlopp.

[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Abhisit and coalition allies in show of solidarity this morning b4 reporters, ruling out House dissolution. Stock index has risen a little.
Thai News: Finance minister assures Japan of Thailand’s ability to cope with rallies
THE NATION: Chart Thai Pattana will not pull out: Chumpol
Thai News: It’s business as usual for offices in Bangkok

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Police step up security at Democrat head office following threat by Jatuporn

BANGKOK: — Police have stepped up security at the Democrat Party head office after red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan threatened to deploy 2,000 protesters to besiege it.

Jatuporn said Monday that if Democrat MP Thepthai Senpong did not stop making false allegations against the red-shirt movement, some 2,000 protesters would be deployed to surround the Democrat head office.

Some 60 policemen were deployed to guard entrances to the party head office.

They were backed up by a company of command police from the Saraburi.

Police also set up barricade in front of the party and three police trucks for detaining suspects were deployed to the scene.

Pol Maj Gen Saroj Promcharoen, the commander of Metropolitan Police Division 2, inspected the party head office Monday morning.

— The Nation 2010-03-15

[Rosarin]

Area in Front of 11th Infantry Regiment Closed off to Traffic

Red-shirt leaders Weera Musikapong and Arisman Pongruengrong have arrived at the red-shirt protest site in front of the 11th Infantry Regiment.

Roads around the 11th Infantry Regiment have been closed off to traffic, including the Bangkhen Tunnel.

— Tan Network 2010-03-15

[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Protest leaders at 11th Regiment HQ said they would stay until 2 pm and then move back to Rajdamnoen.

THE NATION: It seems red shirts will review their strategy, plan after regrouping at Rajadamnoen.

THE NATION: Sri Pathum Uni will be closed on March 15-16 (via Siammoney).

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MCOT: Business as usual for Yawaraj gold shops; BMTA adjusts bus routes passing 11th Infantry Regiment; BTS Skytrain operates more frequently

TAN Network: Red shirt leaders prepare to hold presser after deadline passes

THE NATION: Local commercial banks in high risk areas-Phan Fa bridge,Banglampoo,Trok Khao San,Rajdamnoen Ave. near anti-govt rallies remain closed this Mon.

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TAN network: Reports indicate red shirts start to cut barbed wire along infantry fence
Bangkok Post: UDD won’t seize airports
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UDD vows not to seize Suvarnabhumi Airport

BANGKOK (NNT) — The United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) has made a solemn promise not to seize Suvarnabhumi International Airport.

UDD core leader MD Weng Tojirakarn stressed that the UDD will not seize Suvarnabhumi International Airport. He said the UDD would rally to the Democrat Party Headquarters if Deputy Prime Minister for Security Affairs Suthep Thaugsuban continues to make groundless allegations.

Speaking after the meeting of the war room of the party on Sunday, Democrat Party List MP Chamni Sakdiset expected that the UDD would intensify their movement after the government decided to turn down the request of the UDD to dissolve the house. He then speculated that the UDD might seize Suvarnabhumi International Airport in a bid to pressure the government.

In November 2008, the People’s Alliance for Democracy seized Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang International Airports during their political movement to oust the government, at that time, led by the now disbanded People Power Party.

Throngs of UDD protestors are now gathering in front of the 11th Infantry Regiment peacefully, and more are marching from the main rally site at Phan Fa Bridge. Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva recently made a press conference to turn down the request of the UDD to dissolve the house.

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Tourists not affected by UDD’s mass rally

BANGKOK (NNT) — Tourists will not be affected from the ongoing mass demonstration of the anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship, according to Tourism and Sports Minister, Chumpol Silapa-archa.

The minister stated that tourists would not be affected from the mass rally in Bangkok. He explained that most tourists were travelling to seaside provinces in the southern part of the country and added that foreign tourists are used to the political situation in Thailand.

Mr Chumpol then confirmed that no countries have forbidden their people from travelling to Thailand. He said they only made suggestions to their citizens, which was the lowest level of warning, and only a few countries had issued travel warnings.

Throngs of UDD protestors now are gathering in front of the 11th Infantry Regiment, and more are marching from their main rally site at Phan Fa Bridge. The 11th Infantry Regiment is now the operation center of the Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO).

The minister voiced his confidence that UDD demonstrators would not break into the CAPO. He believed that the military and the security affairs could handle the situation, including the decision to enforce the Emergency Decree if needed.

— NNT 2010-03-15
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MCOT: Banks, some offices near Red Shirts’ protest venue at Ratchadamnoen Avenue and nearby temporarily close

[sunsern]

@erikv wrote:

@Thaisambo wrote:

@erikv wrote:

Till thaisambo

Så du menar att de gula ska också ut på gatorna demonstrera så att det blir upplopp o kravaller. Thai är inte som svenskar(fogliga o lite lagom) o det vet de flesta. Det finns ett temperament som lätt svallar över under detta leende ansikte. Du kan försöka med bara att förolämpa en så får du se vad som kan hända. Det finns ingen koppling till svenskheten.
MVH
erikv

Erikv,

Varför i all världen skulle jag koppla till svenskheten?

Den enda parallell jag gör är jämförelsen med strejksystemet i fackföreningssammanhang, där deltagarna genom strejkkassan får betalt för att strejka, och det system som används nu, där demonstranter får betalt för att demonstrera. I båda fallen är det den som sitter på pengarna som betalar.

Och att de gula inte eskalerar konflikten genom att hålla på med motdemonstrationer utan ligger lågt är uppenbart, det ser ut att vara en medveten strategi med flera bottnar. Varför skulle de överhuvudtaget bry sej om vad de röda gör? De röda kan gott få tömma sina demonstrationskassor så ebbar det ut likaväl som en arbetsmarknadskonflikt kan ebba ut därför att strejkkassan tar slut.

Du kan jämföra med våra kravaller, t ex 30 nov vid Karl XII:s staty i Stockholm, där allsköns grupperingar drabbar samman, nynazister, skinheads och diverse motdemonstranter. Här i Thailand går det lugnt till. Det är ingalunda som t ex IRA i Belfast även om de också använde bomber på sin tid. Och polisen gör allt för att hålla det nere och avväpnar, det gör man förresten i och för sej överallt där det finns konfliktrisk.

Tror Du verkligen på fullt allvar att thai går in för att förolämpa och provocera? De är ju buddhister i grunden – undviker konflikt helt enkelt och gör allt för att undvika konflikter eller eskalera sådana, det är inte konflikter thailändsk kultur handlar om.

Inte heller har detta med svenskar att göra eller ens med den i och för sig aggressiva kristenheten, det är kontraster.

Det jag talar om är vilka tämligen uppenbara strategier som kommer till användning och hur liknande strategier kommit till användning även på andra håll.

Det stora svenska misslyckandet är Ådalen kravallerna 1931, sen dess har man inte använt militära insatser mot civilbefolkningen i Sverige. Det är också en parallell och har med strategisk konflikthantering att göra. Eller tror Du på något sätt att thailändsk militär skulle gå in och börja skjuta hej vilt för att få slut på demonstrationen? Det är ju sådant man försöker undvika!

Nu har det som Du också skrivit tidigare i tråden uppstått inre söndring bland demonstranterna därför att något rykte om att ledande inom demonstrantverksamheten bland de röda skulle ha stoppat delar av demonstrationskassan i egen ficka. Om det verkligen är så eller inte spelar inte så stor roll, den konkreta effekten är att demoralisering och splittring uppstår bland demonstranterna. Det kan vara verklig information eller medveten desinformation – ett skolexempel på hur information kan användas för att utså split och söndring beroende på vad man vill åstadkomma.

Det är också därför man inte kan ha något förtroende för information under en pågående konflikt, det används som strategiska styrmedel för att få kontroll, ett mycket effektivt konflikthanteringsmedel för övrigt när vi nu lever i ett informationssamhälle.

Jag menade att svenska lynnet är inte i närheten av det thailänska. Det finns bevis för detta inom forumet också.
Man kan mörda för 200 Bth vilket en tok tok chaufför gjorde o jag har flera paralleller men det finns ingen anledning att ta upp.Buddist eller inte. Militären kommer bara ingripa i yttersta fall o det vill sig mycket till att de skulle börja skjuta på sina bröder o systrar. Jag tycker att de gula sköter sig exemplariskt när de bara är som åskådare. Detta är bara en maktkamp där oskyldiga människor används som spelbrickor. Visserligen har de fått en välbehövlig “semester” med vissa undantag(idealister). Förra upploppet är inte så långt borta där det hettade till. Det här med demoralisering tänker jag inte ens ta upp o allmänt tycker jag att din kännedom om thailändare verkar ganska kras. Slut på citat. Ingen återkoppling till detta ämne. Inget personligt
Från landet lagom
erikv

upp dessa. Du har väl inte glömt bort förra årets upplopp.

Hej erikv! Det vill jag skoja lite,,,, 🙂 För en tid längre sedan Thailand hade krig mellan landet,Det var best krigare inte ligger med tom magen,kanske du fatta vad jag mena?(så varför gula ska ut på gatorna ,,,)Nej du ! jag tycker det verkar mycket lugnare än föra år,och jag hoppat kommer de överen snart,Tycker syn om Kungen!!

[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Bit of tension at 11 Regiment HQ now, as red shirts demand to send their representatives inside to submit a letter.
THE NATION: They said if their representatives were not allowed in, they would storm the vast compound.

THE NATION: Rows of soldiers are seen on the other side of the barriers along with water trucks.

THE NATION: protesters face barbed wires, then wall, then barbed wires, rows of soldiers, water trucks, more soldiers, armored trucks and fire trucks.

THE NATION: Red leader Jatuporn is attacking Prem on stage.

THE NATION: Nuttawut, another red leader, is seen intensely talking to someone on the phone.

Protesters threaten to break into 11th Infantry Regiment

BANGKOK: — The red-shirt leaders threatened at 1 pm to have protesters storm into the compound of the 11th Infantry Regiment if the leaders are not allowed to enter into the compound to negotiate with the government.

Confusion broke up at around 1:10 pm when the red-shirt leaders announce they wanted to go inside the compound where key government leaders were monitoring the situation.

— The Nation 2010-03-15

THE NATION: Just how many red shirts are there at 11th regiment? Our reporters said thousands were at the venue but many more still on the road.

THE NATION: Red-shirts will not siege airports,UDD core member Weng Tojirakarn said.Red-shirts at 11th Infantry Regiment are returning to Rajdamnoen

THE NATION: Minutes ago our reporters still saw red vehicles near Central Lard Prao, many kilometres from 11th Regiment.

THE NATION: Protesters remaining at Rajadamnoen had a different story on Nuttawut. The phone thing was a “warning” a sniper was planning to shoot him

MCOT: Red Shirt leaders on mobile stage at 11th Infantry Regiment attack government, announcing stance for 2-3 hours before returning to Phan Fah Lilat Bridge

THE NATION: Another red leader, Weng, said 3 million protesters are in town. I don’t think even Thaksin can agree with that.

THE NATION: Nuttawat said 1 million cc of blood will be taken from 100,000 protesters and splattered at Govt House tonite.

THE NATION: Blood donation will start at 8 am tomorrow and last until late in the afternoon for the first 1 million cc.

Thaivisa: Red-shirt leaders say they will stay where they are for several more hours and then return to their stage at Phan Pha bridge where they will announce the next step towards their goal of forcing the Government to resign.

Don’t they fear the spread of diseases such as HIV?

Do they have 100,000 guaranteed sterilized and safe needles to draw the blood?

Aren’t they going to risk infection of so-called donors and those who come into contact with the blood?

Don’t they care about their fellow citizens’ health and safety?

Thaivisa Facebook: http://facebook.com/farang

Nation: We blieve blood announcement is meant to be highlight of 11th regiment visit. There shouldn’t b untoward incident. v can relax a little now

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MCOT: Explosion at army unit, two soldiers wounded.

2 soldiers injured in M79 grenade attack

A M79 grenade was fired into the compound of the First Battalion of the 1st Infantry Regiment Monday afternoon, injuring two soldiers.

The regiment is located in front of the NBT station.

The soldiers were rushed to the Mongkut Klao Hospital.

— The Nation

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Red shirts threaten to deface Government House with their own blood

Natthawut Saikua, a red-shirt leader, announced at 1:40 pm Monday threatened to pour 1 million cc of blood of 100,000 red-shirt people around the Government House.

Natthawut said the red-shirt people would collect their blood and pour the blood at every gate of the Government House at 6pm.

— The Nation 2010-03-15
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TAN Network: At 2 pm red-shirts dispersed from front of 11th Infantry Regiment. They will now return to the main stage on Phanfa Bridge.

TAN Network: Red-shirts will ask their supporters to donate three million CCs of blood to pour around Govt House,Democrats HQ, and PM’s home

TAN Network: M-79 Shot into Army Camp on Vipavadee Rd. 2 soldiers sustained injuries.

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MCOT: Army spokesman Col Sansern confirms M79 fired into 1st Infantry Regiment on Vibhavadi Rd, 2 wounded soldiers sent to Hospital

NATION: PM Abhisit slept well in 11 infanty regiment HQ. He even watched an EPL match on Sat:Satit Wongnongtoey said.

TAN Network: Govt & Opposition whip against plan to carry on with joint Parliamentary meeting tommorrow,fear repeat of Oct 7 bloodshed

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Nation: How much is 1 million cc of blood? Our calculation is 750 or so big bottles of water that you get from gas stations.
Twitter community is intensely scrutinizing the blood donation plan. Most say it can’t be properly done under the circumstances. Hygiene concern is the biggest issue.

Nation:
To correct our blood calculation, it will take 666 1.5 litre bottles _ the type handed out at gas stations _ to contain the amount.

I wonder how many protesters knew the blood plan in advance..
Some tweetple have expressed concern for animal safety if the red shirts fall short of the 3 million cc target.

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Bangkokpundit: This red “donation” idea is odd. Thought they would have gone on hunger strike. What happens to blood when you dump on ground? Hygiene?

BAngkokpundit: Chaturon of TRT fame tweets asking for govt to catch those who fired M79 into army base and not make accusations without evidence

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TAN Network: Traffic in front of 11th Infantry Regiment remains closed after reds left,officials cleaning rubbishes off Paholyothin rd.

TAN Network: DEVELOPING STORY:2 soldiers injured in M79 shooting at 1st Infantry Regiment in safe condition.

Related topic:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/79-Grenades-…Ba-t347644.html

THE NATION: Public Health Ministry yesterday warned redshirted protesters over HIV/AIDS and Hepatitis virus caused by the unsafe blood puncture.

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Police Arrest M-79 Shooter

BANGKOK: Police have arrested a suspect in the shooting of an M-79 grenade at the 1st Infantry Regiment on Vipavadee-Rangsit Road that injured 2 soldiers earlier today.

The suspect was arrested while trying to drive away. The Tungmahamek police are interrogating him.

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TAN Network: DAAD Leader Jaturporn Prompan denies any red shirt involvement in the M79 grenade; accuses gov’t of creating reason for emergency decree

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Phuket red shirts determined to succeed

PHUKET: — Phuket’s red shirts are determined to stay in Bangkok until the movement succeeds in bringing down the government, according to one of their leaders.

Soonthorn Tohmharn, a local leader of the red-shirted United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD), said more than 10,000 southern red shirts had joined the demonstration since Friday, with more arriving today.

“I told people in my group, ‘if anyone wants to go home, let me know so I can buy you a ticket back,’” he said.

None of the group accepted the offer, Mr Soonthorn said.

The Phuket UDD members have a tent at Khok Wua Intersection, near Sanam Luang in Bangkok.

Mr Soonthorn said there was no violence in their area. “We’ve gathered peacefully,” he said. “I don’t think any yellow shirts will dare to go against us. Otherwise they will die because there are a lot of us now.”

Mr Soonthorn said he was confident of victory. “What I heard from my friend, a source in the Democrat Party, makes me believe we are going to win. He said the PM has to resign; otherwise this will not end positively.”

Although the media were reporting around 100,000 people had joined the demonstration, he thought the protesters could number one million, he said.

“We are all fired up. We can melt iron. I can’t tell what the result is going to be but I’m not afraid of what could happen to me and my life,” he said.

— Phuket Gazette 2010-03-15

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THE NATION: News meeting over. Consensus is the blood plan is red shirts’ “exit strategy”.

THE NATION: Details also emerged on how “calm and cool” Army speakers outwitted and charmed protest leaders to defuse tension at 11 regiment HQ.

THE NATION: We’ve also learned that an unknown number of protesters headed for 11 regiment HQ and never came back. They simply went home.

THE NATION: Today will see the number of protesters drop to the lowest since the rally began.

THE NATION: B4 protesters moved to 11 Regiment HQ, leaders at Rajadamnoen pleaded with them not to pack. “We still have to come back”, they said.

[Rosarin]

Related topic:

Deposed Thai premier spotted in Montenegro
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Deposed-Thai…te-t347740.html
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MCOT: PM Abhisit not seen at 11th Infantry Regiment; officials say he’s now in a safer place

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MCOT: Red Shirt leader Jatuporn denies UDD involvement in M79 attack, citing state officials create situation leading to Emergency Decree use

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[Nille]

Hur många röda är det på gatorna nu? Mer eller mindre än i Söndags?

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Police release suspected M79 grenade attacker; forensic experts don’t find explosive power residue in vehicle

TAN Network: DAAD Leader Nattawut Saikua deems rally at 11th Infantry a success; will decide tomorrow whether to surround Parliament

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[Rosarin]

Hej!

Svårt att säga, vi har inte sett en enda hitills. Har inte varit nere i stan heller men Ekachai var på bio igår och han såg inte en enda han heller, sa han.

De verkar bara hålla sig kring sina områden än så länge.

Enligt nyheterna har vissa begett sig hemåt medans andra fortfarande strömmar till, så det är nog svårt att säga.

Vad säger ni andra som bor i Bkk.
Hur många tror ni att dom är just nu?

[mr bangkok]

20;40 15mars å Lungt och stilla än så länge! kollade när paraden gled förbi där jag bor idag..precis kollat nyheterna! :cherry: :spiderman: :cherry:

[erikv]

Tyvärr så gick det inte att citera detta på sin rätta plats så jag försöker på detta vis

Hej sunsern jag förstår

Ja, lite skoj dör man inte av. Jag har läst en hel del Thailänsk historia från 1200 talet o framåt.Siam som det hette dåo Sukothai samt Phitsanulok var en av huvudstäderna. Phitsanulok var kungastaden o militärens högkvarter o ni drev bort burmeserna o blev ett självständigt stat. Bangkok blev huvudstad 1728 men jag är inte hundra på det. Men till saken. Ja vi har en kung av det bästa kvalitet som har stöttat barhem, sjukhus, skolor mm., men ingen som kan ta över .Ingen som har fått växa in i rollen som i Sverige,tyvärr.Jag kommer från Finland från början (ursprungligen från Tyskland via Sverige till Finland 1600 talet).Under andra världskriget var många av min familj i kriget inklusive min far. Det de sade då var att ät inget innan du går ut i strid för om du blir skjuten i magen så kommer döden att bli väldigt smärtsam. Nog om det. Jag förstår att folk behöver mat o pengar för att överleva o att göra detta i Thailand är väldigt svårt. När jag träffade min lilla älskling så hade hon arbetad 11 månader i streck var av endast två dagar ledigt under hela tiden o så är det nog för de flesta i Thailand. Vi får hoppas på det bästa vad det gäller nu. Att det det blir lugnt.

Men som sagt äta måste man annars dör man o det är det enda som gäller i Thailand är jobba jobba.
Snart är det dags att åka. Skönt.

Carpe diem o ha en bra dag.
erikv

[Fender]

erikv:

De klassiska årtalen:
sukothai 1238 – 1350
Ayutthaya 1350 – 1767
Thonburi (västra BKK) 1767 – 1782
Bangkok (östra sidan, numera både östra och västra, sedan 1971) 1782 –

Phitsanulok figurerade som tillfällig “kunglig residensort” eller huvudstad på 1400-talet.

Burmeserna besegrades grundligt, med övertagandet av Lanna riket (norra thailand) först på slutet av 1700-talet, efter att varit lydrike/vassalstat under burmeserna sedan 1558.

Siam är ett namn som togs i bruk ganska sent, kring 1500-talet om jag inte minns fel. Tidigare kallades riket detsamma som gällande huvudstad, dvs Sukothai.

1238 är i alla fall det officiella årtalet för grundandet av den thailändska nationen.

[sunsern]

@erikv wrote:

Tyvärr så gick det inte att citera detta på sin rätta plats så jag försöker på detta vis

Hej sunsern jag förstår

Ja, lite skoj dör man inte av. Jag har läst en hel del Thailänsk historia från 1200 talet o framåt.Siam som det hette dåo Sukothai samt Phitsanulok var en av huvudstäderna. Phitsanulok var kungastaden o militärens högkvarter o ni drev bort burmeserna o blev ett självständigt stat. Bangkok blev huvudstad 1728 men jag är inte hundra på det. Men till saken. Ja vi har en kung av det bästa kvalitet som har stöttat barhem, sjukhus, skolor mm., men ingen som kan ta över .Ingen som har fått växa in i rollen som i Sverige,tyvärr.Jag kommer från Finland från början (ursprungligen från Tyskland via Sverige till Finland 1600 talet).Under andra världskriget var många av min familj i kriget inklusive min far. Det de sade då var att ät inget innan du går ut i strid för om du blir skjuten i magen så kommer döden att bli väldigt smärtsam. Nog om det. Jag förstår att folk behöver mat o pengar för att överleva o att göra detta i Thailand är väldigt svårt. När jag träffade min lilla älskling så hade hon arbetad 11 månader i streck var av endast två dagar ledigt under hela tiden o så är det nog för de flesta i Thailand. Vi får hoppas på det bästa vad det gäller nu. Att det det blir lugnt.

Men som sagt äta måste man annars dör man o det är det enda som gäller i Thailand är jobba jobba.
Snart är det dags att åka. Skönt.

Carpe diem o ha en bra dag.
erikv

Hej!erikv det verka du vet mera än mig,som 100% Thai ,egenligen jag försöka trötta mig själv att inte blir orolig ,här sitter med dator hela tid,och hoppat att det ska över,och blir lugn!men om jag skriva nån ting fel,eller ni ogilla måste ber om ursäkt :scratch:

[Rosarin]

NATION:

“We will continue fighting peacefully”.
“Your patience and unity are keys to success”
“Please don’t give up. Stay just a bit longer. Together we live, seperate we die”.
“Take turn to leave the rally and get some shower and come back.”

NATION:
Fire burn at Red shirts base of protest in Bangkok

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NATION: “Abhisit should take a break, like I did. ” “My crime in the eyes of ammat is my success in tackling poverty”.

“Those are my real problems, coz it affected income stream to the ammat.”

Thaksin’s now quoting Albert Einstein on how bad things happen because good people choose not to act.

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NATION:

Thaksin’s now quoting Albert Einstein on how bad things happen because good people choose not to act.

“Banharn, why do you keep serving as Abhisit’s pillar? Please get out of there”.

“Khun Chai Chidchob, too, please back off.”

“Those are my real problems, coz it affected income stream to the ammat.”

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Thaksin:

“Take turn to leave the rally and get some shower and come back.”

“My military brothers, did you hear Abhisit’s audio clip, which he claimed was fake?”
“Please choose wisely which side you want to be on”.

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[erikv]

@sunsern wrote:

@erikv wrote:

Tyvärr så gick det inte att citera detta på sin rätta plats så jag försöker på detta vis

Hej sunsern jag förstår

Ja, lite skoj dör man inte av. Jag har läst en hel del Thailänsk historia från 1200 talet o framåt.Siam som det hette dåo Sukothai samt Phitsanulok var en av huvudstäderna. Phitsanulok var kungastaden o militärens högkvarter o ni drev bort burmeserna o blev ett självständigt stat. Bangkok blev huvudstad 1728 men jag är inte hundra på det. Men till saken. Ja vi har en kung av det bästa kvalitet som har stöttat barhem, sjukhus, skolor mm., men ingen som kan ta över .Ingen som har fått växa in i rollen som i Sverige,tyvärr.Jag kommer från Finland från början (ursprungligen från Tyskland via Sverige till Finland 1600 talet).Under andra världskriget var många av min familj i kriget inklusive min far. Det de sade då var att ät inget innan du går ut i strid för om du blir skjuten i magen så kommer döden att bli väldigt smärtsam. Nog om det. Jag förstår att folk behöver mat o pengar för att överleva o att göra detta i Thailand är väldigt svårt. När jag träffade min lilla älskling så hade hon arbetad 11 månader i streck var av endast två dagar ledigt under hela tiden o så är det nog för de flesta i Thailand. Vi får hoppas på det bästa vad det gäller nu. Att det det blir lugnt.

Men som sagt äta måste man annars dör man o det är det enda som gäller i Thailand är jobba jobba.
Snart är det dags att åka. Skönt.

Carpe diem o ha en bra dag.
erikv

Hej!erikv det verka du vet mera än mig,som 100% Thai ,egenligen jag försöka trötta mig själv att inte blir orolig ,här sitter med dator hela tid,och hoppat att det ska över,och blir lugn!men om jag skriva nån ting fel,eller ni ogilla måste ber om ursäkt :scratch:

Kära du
Jag skriver fel också. Missar bokstäver m.m. . Bara man förstår helheten o gör man inte det så frågar man igen. Det är inte hela världen. För det första så har vi helt olikt skrift så det måste bli jätte svårt för er att lära skriva svenska.
Det här med att veta mer vet jag inte men jag läser mycket om Thailand o dess historia för jag älskar Thailand. Ta vara på dig

Vänligen

erikv

[Thaisambo]

Hela södra Asien har i alla tider fascinerat européer. Alltifrån främre Orienten, Mellanöstern och Sydöstasien.
Legender som Tusen och en natt, de indiska maharadjorna, de singalesiska kungarna, Siams mystik och härlighet, det gamla Kina, mongolernas rike och Osmanska riket. Så även Japan med sina shoguner, körsbärsträd och den heliga vulkanen Fuji. En mångtusenårig kultur vars like inte finns i Europa.

Hela området är fullt med gammal mystik och underbara legender! Och våra tidigaste berättelser om detta börjar på 1200-talet med Marco Polo och hans resor till Kina och storkhanens hov (Kublai Khan).

[Rosarin]

TISDAG 16 MARS 2010 , BANGKOK kl. 08.57

Neither heat nor hardship dim fervour
By Wannapa Khaopa
The Nation

With temperatures soaring to 36 degrees Celsius yesterday, plus dining and toilet facilities leaving much to be desired, some red-shirted protesters hit their limit, leaving fewer people and freer flowing traffic along Rajdamnoen Avenue.

But many others held firmly onto their goal of forcing a House dissolution. At 1pm, hundreds of them stood in front of the stage under the blazing sun to cheer the speakers up, while others took a rest in their tents and under trees, with all ears tuned to the speeches, songs and updates on their leaders and red-shirted friends. Boxed meals and sticky rice were handed out for lunch by other protesters on motorcycles.

Five protesters unloaded their grievances on The Nation, saying the heat would not drive them away. They were ready to torture themselves until the reds won the battle, or when Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva disbands the House.

Abhisit showed he couldn’t manage the country, as farmers’ income had fallen while the cost of living kept rising, they said. They are yearning for the golden era under former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Boonchoo and Phongphet Sriphoothorn, an elderly couple from the northeastern province of Nong Bua Lamphu, have joined every mass rally in Bangkok, Khao Yai Tiang National Park in Nakhon Ratchasima and Chanthaburi.

“My family doesn’t like this government. It’s not democratic. I decided to be a local red-shirt leader in Nonsang district to protest against them,” Boonchoo, 73, said. “Though tired, I’m not discouraged. Growing rice is much more exhausting than protesting here.”

Boonma Phermphuak, 58, a shop owner from Chanthaburi in the East, who’s joined almost every mass rally in Bangkok, said she wants Abhisit to dissolve the House and let Thais cast their votes for a party they preferred.

“After the new election result is announced, the red shirts will stop, no matter if the new PM is from the Democrat Party or Pheu Thai Party, because it’s the Thai people’s decision,” she said.

Boonchoo and Phongphet, 76, insisted they did not get paid to protest.

“In contrast, we’ve made and sought donations for this rally. Only each pickup truck owner got Bt4,000 to cover the cost of fuel,” he said.

Boonma said she even paid over Bt200 for her own bus fare to come to Bangkok and bought necessities and food for poor protesters.

“Selling goods at home, I earn more than Bt500 a day. I would not trade that for the payments that many people accuse us of receiving,” she said.

Jandee, a 56-year-old company employee from Lampang, was another person insisting that she was not hired to demonstrate.

A Bangkok protester calling himself Eed, 67, said he left his daily income of Bt1,000 from selling coffee to participate in this protest.

“My five children were at this protest site with me last night (Sunday night). They’ll join the protest again when they’re free from work,” he said.

Eed and the others are determined to prolong their camp-out, in full confidence that nobody, particularly the government, would dare attack them.

And the battle will continue with blood donations today. Some elderly protesters as well as those who came without friends reportedly hesitated to give blood, out of hygiene concerns.

Others, though, see the donation as a small token to achieve success.

“The donation is symbolic as they’re asking for a tiny quantity of blood,” they said.

— The Nation 2010-03-16
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Claims of the rally impact on economy restricted by UDD leader

BANGKOK (NNT) – The core leader of the United Front of Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) forbids vendors and the private sector to express their opinion against the rally.

At the stage at Phan Fa Bridge, Mr Veera Musikapong, the UDD’s core leader proclaimed the restriction among vendors and operators around the rally sites including the private sector, in voicing their opinions with the media about how the rally affected trading as well as the country’s economic system and investors’ confidence.

He said the demonstration was taken in accordance with the people’s constitutional rights.

— NNT 2010-03-16

Bombing suspect released, probe continues

BANGKOK (NNT) – A suspect of the M79 grenade attack has been freed after forensic experts did not find any explosive substances on his body.

Police seized a suspicious vehicle, a “Mitsubishi Space Wagon”, which was driven by a middle-aged man, Mr Nawin, 39, shortly after the police had received a tip-off from eyewitnesses and later taken the suspect for interrogation at Thung Mahamak police station.

The explosion at the First Infantry Battalion of the First Infantry Regiment on Vibhavadi-Rangsit Road on Monday afternoon injured two soldiers on duty.

Both were later confirmed safe and currently hospitalised at Phra Mongkut Hospital.

According to Metropolitan Police Bureau Chief Police Leutenant-General Santan Chayanon, the police did not lodge any charges against the suspect as the recent forensic investigative result, led by Dr.Pornthip Rojanasunan, Director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science found no trace of explosive subtances on the arrested man and in his car.

He insisted that the authorities will continue to hunt down the real perpetrators in connection with the M79 grenade blasts.

— NNT 2010-03-16

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Thai Prime Minister won’t step down

Thai PM Abhisit Vejjajiva appeared on national television yesterday to reject a demand from demonstrators that he resign by midday and call elections, the BBC reports. “The protesters have demanded that I dissolve the house…but the coalition parties agree the demand cannot be met,” he said. “Elections must be held under common rules and genuine calm. We have to listen to other people’s voices, not just the protesters.”

Protesters march as demands not met

The Jakarta Post
Army reinforcements were rushed into Thailand’s capital as tens of thousands of anti-government demonstrators prepared to march on a key military headquarters demanding that the government dissolve Parliament.

A force of more than 50,000 soldiers, police and other security personnel has been mobilized in the capital area, and many were deployed to await the march at the 11th Infantry Regiment headquarters where Thai PM Abhisit Vejjajiva has been hunkered down in recent days. But the protest, one of the largest staged in recent years, has proved peaceful.

Thailand’s red shirt tactics turn violent

The Nation
Two soldiers were injured on Monday after an M-79 grenade was fired into an army battalion opposite the National Broadcast Television (NBT) station near the Victory Monument in Bangkok. Natthawut Saikua, a red-shirt leader, also threatened to pour 1 million cc of the blood of 100,000 red-shirt people around Government House. Natthawut said the red-shirt people would collect their blood and pour the blood at every gate of the Government House at 6pm.

Meanwhile, Phuket continues unlikely to be directly affected by the protests as there are no known plans for any anti-government activities in the island province, long a stronghold of support for the Democrat Party whose coalition leads the current Thai government.

Phuket tour company cancels trips to Bangkok

ScandAsia.com
Fear of unrest during the political demonstrations in Bangkok has made Danish Star Tours in Phuket cancel its usual two-day side trips to Bangkok for their guests.

The Danish Ambassador to Thailand, Michael Sternberg, has advised people to avoid going to Bangkok. “We have a great many people on Phuket…who had planned for the two-day tours to Bangkok, but those excursions are canceled now. We believe that’s the right thing to do,” he said.

The tour company’s guests arriving from Denmark will instead be immediately sent to the seaside resort of Hua Hin or other destinations. Star Tours currently has around 1,000 Danish guests in Phuket and 65 in Bangkok.

Ideological struggle in Thailand

CNN
The protesters are supporters of former Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted in a bloodless military coup in 2006. Thaksin was the only Thai prime minister to serve a full-term in office and remains hugely popular. The protesters say that current PM Abhisit was not democratically elected.

Rural poor vs urban elites in Thailand

The New York Times
The depth of the distrust of the elite and the sense of victimization was on display among protesters at the rally on Sunday in Bangkok, Thailand. “We are here to announce class warfare, in peace and for democracy,” Nattawut Saikua, a protest leader, told a roaring crowd.

Protesters and their leaders are portraying the demonstration as a struggle of the poor and disaffected against a government supported and controlled by the elite. “They have never felt pain,” Mr Nattawut said of the governing class. “We don’t have their connections, but we’re ready to die.”

Thaksin’s last chance to return home

The Guardian
The march is regarded by some as the last chance for Thaksin to return to Thailand. Forcing the government out of power, loyalists say, could pave the way for his pardon and return. Thaksin, who lives in Dubai, faces a two-year prison term for abuse of power. But he remains popular among the poor who are thankful for the cheap medical care, low interest loans and other measures his government enacted to alleviate poverty.

— Phuket Gazette News Hound

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BANGKOK: — Day three of the mass rally by anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) red-shirt protesters sees a new level being sunk to as organizers prepare for a mass blood collection from protesters.

Overnight dozens of boxes of syringes, needles, boxes of alcohol and other medical supplies were delivered to the Phan Fa bridge rally site.

Yesterday key red-shirt leader Natthawut Saikua said the UDD will collect 1,000 liters of blood from about 100,000 red-shirt protesters and splash it about the grounds of Government House, so that politicians will “have to walk over the blood of the people as they go to work”.

Mr. Natthawut said if Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva refused to dissolve parliament and hold fresh elections the protesters will also splash blood over the ruling Democrat Party headquarters and the prime minister’s house on Sukhumvit Road.

Mr. Natthawut said 10cc of blood will be collected from each protester, with about 500 medical personnel being recruited to carry out the blood drawing.

Thailand Public Health Ministry has warned the protesters against the possible transmission of diseases, but UDD leader Dr. Weng Tojirakarn, a medical doctor, said the collection of 10cc of blood will not cause any harm to the protesters.

— thaivisa.com 2010-03-16

TAN Network: Around 45 medical personnel on standby for redshirts to donate blood,red leaders be first to donate at 8am

Thaivisa: There are 1,000s lined up for blood donations [08:05]

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Thaivisa: They are collecting blood in 5 litre bottles. Adding anti-coagulant. [08:17]

TAN Network: Medical volunteers at red rally revealed brand 100,000 new syringes donated for red shirt blood drive. Donated blood wont be stored according to normal medical practice. All poured into bottles ready to be ‘used’ by red shirt protesters.

MCOT: Red Shirts start collecting blood from volunteers, targeting 1 million CC, to pour at Govt House gates after PM rejects demand

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The Nation: Thaksin says he may return to Dubai Friday

TAN Network: DAAD leaders take to the stage to donate blood; Veera has already given blood; Jatuporn now being stuck with needle

Thaivisa: Media tent now a blood bank. 1,000’s of ppl lined up to donate 10cc

TAN: Reports suggest that one of the medical personnel present at the red shirt blood drive came from Somdejprapinklao Hospital.

TAN: Nattawut Saikua now getting his blood drawn

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This 11-year-old boy from Bangkok was one of the first people to donate 10cc of blood in response to the call by UDD leaders.

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: DAAD leaders take to the stage to donate blood; Veera has already given blood; Jatuporn now being stuck with needle

Nattawut Saikua now getting his blood drawn

Weng Tojirakarn next in line to donate blood; doctor from Khon Kean volunteers to draw

People’s Channel Executive Adisorn Piengket next

Pheu Thai MP Karun Hongsakul also joins blood drive; followed by Darunee Klitboonyarai

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Thaivisa: 1,000’s of redshirt protesters donate blood

[Rosarin]

More pictures in our picture thread!

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=…t&p=3419093
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Thailand protesters press plan to bring down govt

by Thanaporn Promyamyai

BANGKOK (AFP) – Tens of thousands of red-clad Thai protesters pressed on Tuesday with their rally calling for snap elections, despite the prime minister’s firm rejection of their demands that he step down.

The “Red Shirts”, loyal to deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, showed no sign of giving up their protests in the streets of Bangkok, where security was tightened after four grenades hit an army base in the capital on Monday.

The attacks wounded two soldiers and raised tensions, although it was not yet clear if they were linked to the protesters, who had massed in front of a separate barracks where Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva was taking refuge.

In a bizarre development, protest leader Nattawut Saikur said the Red Shirts would ask demonstrators to donate a small amount of blood on Tuesday and spill it at the gates of Government House to demonstrate their fierce determination.

“If Abhisit still wants to continue as prime minister regardless of our demands, he must walk across Red Shirt people’s blood,” he said, sparking concern among health officials who said the stunt could spread diseases.

The Red Shirts rail against the perceived elitism of the government and say it is undemocratic, as it came to power via a December 2008 parliamentary vote that followed a controversial court ruling ousting Thaksin’s allies.

Thaksin’s followers are largely from the poor rural north and support him for the populist policies he introduced before being ousted in a 2006 coup.

But the ex-premier, who lives abroad to avoid a jail term for corruption, is loathed by the rival “Yellow Shirts”, who are supported by Bangkok’s elites and accuse him of graft and disloyalty to the revered royal family.

Since the coup Thailand has been rocked by protests from both sides.

Last month Thailand’s top court confiscated 1.4 billion dollars of the telecoms tycoon’s wealth. He made an impassioned plea to supporters by video link on Monday for the third consecutive night, urging them to fight on.

By Monday evening the Red Shirts had returned to their main rally site in Bangkok’s old quarter from the army base in the city’s northern outskirts, after Abhisit left the barracks by helicopter.

Earlier Abhisit, who heads a fragile six-party coalition, had made a nationally televised address to reject the red-clad crowd’s demand.

“Elections must be held under common rules and genuine calm. We have to listen to other people’s voices, not just the protesters,” he said.

The pro-Thaksin forces had dubbed their rally a “million man march” but police have estimated their numbers at only 86,000 since they began arriving on Friday. Protest leaders gave various figures, all a lot higher than 100,000.

Authorities said a 50,000-strong security force was on hand across Bangkok and surrounding provinces, under a strict security law allowing authorities to ban gatherings and impose curfews.

A senior police official said a male suspect had been arrested Monday for the grenade attacks and his car confiscated, but the man denied any involvement in the incident.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-16
Published with written approval from AFP

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Red shirts start shedding blood

BANGKOK: — About 500 red-shirt protesters made long queue at 8 am Tuesday to let their leaders draw to cc of blood each as part of the measure to force the government to dissolve the House.

Voluntary medical personnel started taking the protesters’ blood at 8 am for the red-shirt leaders to pool the blood for pouring in front of the Government House at 6 pm.

The red-shirt leaders announced they would pour 1 million cc of the grassroots’ blood to pressure the government to dissolve the House.

— The Nation 2010-03-16
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Thai Red Cross refuses to provide blood transfusion service for the protesters

BANGKOK (NNT) — The Thai Red Cross has refused to provide a blood transfusion service to the red shirted protesters due to their wrong purpose of usage.

Deputy Director of the Clinical Pathology Center, Thai Red Cross, MD Ubolwan Charoonruangrit stressed the Thai Red Cross Society would not provide a blood transfusion service to the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) protesters due to the misapplication as the blood transfusion practices were meant only for medical care and donation purposes.

The United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship’s core figure, Mr Nattawut Saikua, had earlier stated that 10 milliliters of blood will be collected from each of the 100,000 participating demonstrators tomorrow and splattered around the Government House after the Prime Minister has shrugged off their House dissolution request.

The blood collection by skin puncture must be done only by medical experts or else, mis-puncture will cause significant injury. The extra affect will cause paralysis and trauma on those who have high blood pressure or Hemophilia. The procedure should be done in a clean lab and the skin should always be wiped with alcohol pad before the puncture.

MD Ubolwan added the BMA’s garbage officers might get infected from the accidental puncture wounds if the protesters dumped their needles in the garbage.

— NNT 2010-03-16
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Thaksin says he may return to Dubai Friday

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra announced early Tuesday that he may be in Dubai by Friday.

He posted a message on his twitter page, saying: “By Friday, I may have returned to Dubai”.

— The Nation 2010-03-16
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[Rosarin]

Thai ‘Red Shirts’ collect own blood for symbolic protest

BANGKOK (AFP) – Thailand’s red-clad protesters rallying in Bangkok began collecting their own blood Tuesday, to be spilled at the entrance of government offices if their demands for snap elections are not met.

Hundreds of “Red Shirts,” who back fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, were queuing up in the capital to offer a small amount of their blood in an unusual gesture of their determination, an AFP reporter witnessed.

“Today we spill our blood, not for donations but to show equality. We are fighting,” said one protest leader Nattawut Saikur, claiming that the process was medically safe with clean needles.

Senior Reds said the blood would be spilled at the entrance to Government House in Bangkok’s historic quarter at 6:00pm (1100 GMT) if Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva continued to refuse their demands to dissolve parliament.

“If Abhisit is still stubborn, even though he does not have blood on his hands, his feet will be bloodied with our curses,” Nattawut added.

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TAN Network: Traffic police say Bangkok traffic almost back to normal as city dwellers get used to the political situation

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[Bangkok Info]

Var och besökte rödtröjorna igår runt Dusit området. Dom flesta var äldre och från norra och nordöstra Thailand. Dem var pratglada och bjöd på mat och öl. Lite av festival stämning. Våldsamheter kändes långt borta. Dem jag pratade med sa att demonstrationerna skulle gå fredligt till. Allt annat var lögner i media enligt dom.

La upp lite bilder på bloggen http://blogg.bangkokinfo.se/

[Rosarin]

@Bangkok Info wrote:

Var och besökte rödtröjorna igår runt Dusit området. Dom flesta var äldre och från norra och nordöstra Thailand. Dem var pratglada och bjöd på mat och öl. Lite av festival stämning. Våldsamheter kändes långt borta. Dem jag pratade med sa att demonstrationerna skulle gå fredligt till. Allt annat var lögner i media enligt dom.

La upp lite bilder på bloggen http://blogg.bangkokinfo.se/

Åh det låter toppen!
Tack för info:n!

🙂

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Joint Parliamentary session unable to start; not enough members attending; House Speaker Chai refuses to reschedule
After several attempts to start proceedings, Chai Chidchob closes Parliamentary session after only Pheu Thai MP’s show up

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Thaivisa: Many of the redshirt protesters giving blood are dehydrated/hypoxic. Having trouble getting veins
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The redshirts blood collection is probably the biggest mass collection of blood outside of a time of war or national disaster

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Red-shirt leaders pool blood

BANGKOK: — Red-shirt leaders had their blood pulled out Tuesday morning in the campaign for protesters to pool their blood for pouring in front of the Government House.

Veera Musigapong was the first red-shirt leader to give his blood at 8:25 am.

He was followed by Jatuporn Promphan, and then Natthawut Saikua.

They were followed by Weng Tojitrakarn, Adisorn Piengket, and Karun Hosakul.

Their bloods were emptied from syringes into a bin, which was by half with a solution. The red-shirt leaders said the solution was chemical for preventing the blood from hardening.

Jatuporn said the pooled blood of the red-shirt people would be poured onto the ground in front of Government House before dusk.

— The Nation 2010-03-16

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TAN Network: INN: Jatuporn calls on Pheu Thai MP’s to resign in order to pressure gov’t to dissolve House;will spill blood on Gov’t House this evening
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THE NATION: Two and a half hrs passed, the blood is still far for its target (1 million CC). Only 20,000 people (200,000 CC) donated their blood.
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TAN Network: PM: Any protesters who want to go home can contact gov’t officials; “we’ll get you home”
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I tråden http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Red-shirt-Rally-Live-Upda-t347906.html&st=25
finns fler bilder på röd skjortor som lämnar blod. Även bilder på munkar som lämnar blod.

[Rosarin]

Thaivisa reporter in the blood tent: “Starting to feel like a Bloody Mary but no vodka.”

57 simultaneous blood collection points now operating at #redshirts rally
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2bangkok.com:

Accident created by nails piercing the tyres at 700 meter closed to the first Battalion, the 1st Inf. Reg. (On Vibhavadee Rangsit Highway)
http://www.manager.co.th/Home/ViewNews.asp…D=9530000036314

Next on the line after grenade launching, puring the blood mixed with HIV and Hepathesis at the Goverement house
http://www.manager.co.th/QOL/ViewNews.aspx…D=9530000036342

Eyewithness acccount of launching M79 grenade from Pick Up truck
http://www.manager.co.th/Home/ViewNews.asp…D=9530000036350

Now, Police at Thung mahamek are aresting one of those who launch M79 grenade
http://www.manager.co.th/Crime/ViewNews.as…D=9530000036286

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TAN Network: PM: Blood-pouring does not symbolise government using violence; travels today to inspect drought in northern provinces

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Reports indicate another M79 attack last night near residence of Administrative Court President
Bangkok Post: PM: Govt to listen to opinion of UDD

Thaivisa: Ppl donating blood at the redshirt rally are now being given Ovaltine drink on departure. Many R dehydrated – hard to locate veins

[Rosarin]

Protesters´ blood collecting starts

BANGKOK (NNT) – The United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) protesters continue to donate blood in order to collect one million cc to be tossed in front of Government House in their latest move to oust the Abhisit Vejjajiva government.

UDD core leader Nuttawut Saikua has confirmed to the UDD members that the blood donation is 100% safe, using one needle per person.

The blood donation was under the supervision of medical doctors, he said. Other core leaders if the group have given their blood on the stage.

Prime Minister’s Office Minister Satit Wonghnongtaey has expressed concern that the blood donations would be unhygienic, making the members lethargic due to a blood loss and prone to infections.

Meanwhile Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said yesterday that he would not step down and dissolve the house as this would hinder the progress of the nation.

The UDD issued an ultimatum for the PM to dissolve the house by Monday noon.

— NNT 2010-03-16
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BangkokDan: The bloodbath is actually a great idea. Thais love grizzly stuff. Pure populism, great to attract (again) the masses

THE NATION: Morning news meeting just ended. Biggest story is Suthep confirming that recent sabotage warning followed foreign intelligence tips.
We’ve heard this story for 2 days and r still working on it. Apparently, the “foreign intelligence” works involved phone tapping as well
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TAN Network: 300-strong security force sent to Suvarnabhumi International Airport to secure area from noon today

MCOT: M-79 shot in Lad Prao 23 near house of Supreme Administrative Court president Akrathorn Chularat last night, no one hurt

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[erikv]

@sunsern wrote:

@erikv wrote:

Tyvärr så gick det inte att citera detta på sin rätta plats så jag försöker på detta vis

Hej sunsern jag förstår

Ja, lite skoj dör man inte av. Jag har läst en hel del Thailänsk historia från 1200 talet o framåt.Siam som det hette dåo Sukothai samt Phitsanulok var en av huvudstäderna. Phitsanulok var kungastaden o militärens högkvarter o ni drev bort burmeserna o blev ett självständigt stat. Bangkok blev huvudstad 1728 men jag är inte hundra på det. Men till saken. Ja vi har en kung av det bästa kvalitet som har stöttat barhem, sjukhus, skolor mm., men ingen som kan ta över .Ingen som har fått växa in i rollen som i Sverige,tyvärr.Jag kommer från Finland från början (ursprungligen från Tyskland via Sverige till Finland 1600 talet).Under andra världskriget var många av min familj i kriget inklusive min far. Det de sade då var att ät inget innan du går ut i strid för om du blir skjuten i magen så kommer döden att bli väldigt smärtsam. Nog om det. Jag förstår att folk behöver mat o pengar för att överleva o att göra detta i Thailand är väldigt svårt. När jag träffade min lilla älskling så hade hon arbetad 11 månader i streck var av endast två dagar ledigt under hela tiden o så är det nog för de flesta i Thailand. Vi får hoppas på det bästa vad det gäller nu. Att det det blir lugnt.

Men som sagt äta måste man annars dör man o det är det enda som gäller i Thailand är jobba jobba.
Snart är det dags att åka. Skönt.

Carpe diem o ha en bra dag.
erikv

Hej!erikv det verka du vet mera än mig,som 100% Thai ,egenligen jag försöka trötta mig själv att inte blir orolig ,här sitter med dator hela tid,och hoppat att det ska över,och blir lugn!men om jag skriva nån ting fel,eller ni ogilla måste ber om ursäkt :scratch:

Kära du
Jag skriver fel också. Missar bokstäver m.m. . Bara man förstår helheten o gör man inte det så frågar man igen. Det är inte hela världen. För det första så har vi helt olikt skrift så det måste bli jätte svårt för er att lära skriva svenska.
Det här med att veta mer vet jag inte men jag läser mycket om Thailand o dess historia för jag älskar Thailand. Ta vara på dig

Vänligen

erikv

[Bkk]

Jag var åter över och kikade lite vad demonstranterna hade för sig idag. Rachadamnoen är i princip avstängd för trafik, men det går att korsa den på några ställen. Inga problem att ta sig in med cykel dock. Få demonstranter på plats, när jag var där vid 15-tiden. De var nog i full färd med att tappa blod. Jag kunde enkelt ta mig fram ända till scenen vid Phan Faa och där fanns bara några 100-tal demonstranter vid tillfället. Mycket lugnt och stillsamt. Och varmt – inte ens demonstranter pallar att stå i solen. Många hade sökt skydd i skuggan vid intilliggande templet.

[Rosarin]

Protesters´ blood collecting starts

BANGKOK (NNT) – The United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) protesters continue to donate blood in order to collect one million cc to be tossed in front of Government House in their latest move to oust the Abhisit Vejjajiva government.

UDD core leader Nuttawut Saikua has confirmed to the UDD members that the blood donation is 100% safe, using one needle per person.

The blood donation was under the supervision of medical doctors, he said. Other core leaders if the group have given their blood on the stage.

Prime Minister’s Office Minister Satit Wonghnongtaey has expressed concern that the blood donations would be unhygienic, making the members lethargic due to a blood loss and prone to infections.

Meanwhile Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said yesterday that he would not step down and dissolve the house as this would hinder the progress of the nation.

The UDD issued an ultimatum for the PM to dissolve the house by Monday noon.

— NNT 2010-03-16
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BangkokDan: The bloodbath is actually a great idea. Thais love grizzly stuff. Pure populism, great to attract (again) the masses

THE NATION: Morning news meeting just ended. Biggest story is Suthep confirming that recent sabotage warning followed foreign intelligence tips.
We’ve heard this story for 2 days and r still working on it. Apparently, the “foreign intelligence” works involved phone tapping as well
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TAN Network: 300-strong security force sent to Suvarnabhumi International Airport to secure area from noon today

MCOT: M-79 shot in Lad Prao 23 near house of Supreme Administrative Court president Akrathorn Chularat last night, no one hurt
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THE NATION: It seems they want to get it over with quickly. More and more protesters are getting homesick.

THE NATION: It seems they want to get it over with quickly. More and more protesters are getting homesick.
Protest leaders have announced 500,000 cc of blood has been collected. World record?
10 cc each, which means they have collected blood from 50,000 people!!!

THE NATION: To our knowledge, there r only a few dozens medical personnel for the bloody job. Each “collection” took 3-5 mins. pls help me with the math

THE NATION: A correction, as far as our reporters’ eyes can tell, there r about 100 doctors and nurses collecting blood at the rally.
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TAN Network: INN: Pheu Thai MP’s donate blood for red shirt cause; after 4 hrs, only 100,000 cc collected

TAN Network: TNN says only 30,000 cc collected so far

Bangkokpundit: There is no way they would have met their blood target, but not sure target was their point. Still enough blood to make a mess if they want

CNN Producer Demands Dan Rivers Report Red Shirt Rallies From Outside “Super Pussy”: http://www.notthenation.com/pages/news/getnews.php?id=882
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TAN Network: INN: Bomb attack on Newin’s father-in-law’s house in Chiang Mai; broken windows; no injuries reported
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THE NATION: Thaksin has tweeted to slam the sabotage report, calling Suthep a liar&demanding evidence from those accusing him of malicious plots.
Red station has displayed this…”Slave blood is ammats’ foods”.
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MCOT: PM: Red Shirt’s symbolic blood-pouring protest signifies government’s non-violent approach
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The Nation: Protesters are scheduled to pour blood at Govt House around 3 pm. Will they shift protest site there for an easier-to-control rally?
Also from our newsroom, it’s been quiet so far at provincial halls nationwide, despite calls for those not in Bkk to gather there.

TV: Queue of blood donor at #redshirts rally starting to thin out. All 57+ collectors still busy tho

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The Nation: “Bloody” events – Protesters will head to gov house to throw blood at 3pm & Chiangmai City Hall will be the target for blood-painting at 4pm.

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PM: Red Shirt’s symbolic blood-pouring protest signifies government’s non-violent approach

BANGKOK: — Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on Tuesday pledged to carry on his duties, saying the Red Shirt’s symbolic blood pouring protest indicated that his government has applied no violence at all against them as the rally of tens of thousands anti-government Red Shirt demonstrators was entering its third day.

Mr Abhisit commented as the key leaders of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) on Tuesday began collecting blood from Red Shirt volunteers before pouring it at all gates of Government House after their demand to dissolve the Parliament and to call new elections was rejected by the premier.

The UDD also threatened to collect more blood and pour at the headquarters of the ruling Democrat Party Headquarters and at Mr Abhisit’s home in Bangkok’s Sukhumvit area if their demand is still ignored.

The prime minister said the blood donation of the demonstrators is a symbol signifying that the bleeding is not caused by the government which has clearly demonstrated that it would not use violence against the demonstrators.

Mr Abhisit added he will continue his duties as usual, asserting that a dissolution of the House dissolution is not the best way to solve the country’s political conflict, but the government is ready to listen and talk with the protest leaders.

The premier however said the talks must not be conditional, nor intimidating, pledging that he will handle the ongoing anti-government rally smoothly.

Regarding Monday’s M79 grenade attack at the First Infantry Regiment on Vibhavadi Rangsit Road which wounded two soldiers, the premier said the incident showed that some persons still attempted to ignite violence and misunderstanding.

After being questioned by the media, the premier said he will inspect drought in northern provinces after attending a security meeting of the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) at the 11th Infantry Regiment.

Security measures at 11th Infantry Regiment have been tightened still further to be ready in case the Red Shirt protesters will move to the area to hear the premier’s response to their demand.

Meanwhile, House Speaker cancelled a joint parliamentary meeting Tuesday as only 80 members of the House and senators turned up which is short of a quorum of 625. The Lower House has 475 members and the Upper House has 150 members.

House Speaker Chai Chidchob announced an indefinite postponement of the join parliamentary session.

The Government Whip on Monday asked the House Speaker to cancel the joint parliamentary meeting Tuesday due to the ‘inappropriate situation’ as the joint meeting may instigate the Red Shirt protesters.

— TNA 2010-03-16
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The Nation: About 60 Pheu Thai MPs donated blood at Parliament and vowed to throw it on PM’s seat in the meeting room.

MCOT: Giant firecrackers thrown to Bangkok Bank, house of father-in-law of Newin Chidchob in Chiang mai, no one wounded

TV: Ppl coming to donate blood but not part of the protest/ Reason: “Get rid of Abhisit”

The Nation: 70,000 reds registered to donate the blood and now they got 600,000 CC.

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BangkokDan: Maybe this absurd bloody comedy tells us which leaders to elect

bangkokpundit: Matichon: Red shirt leader (medical) Dr Weng says a substance will be added to blood collected to kill infections

Chiang Mai Hall To Be Closed At 6 Pm Following Threat Of Bloody Protest:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Chiang-Mai-H…hr-t348043.html

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Thaivisa: Students, ppl in suits, bank staff & government employees now coming to give blood @ #redshirts collection tents.
Man just walked in with 6 vials of blood – 10cc – drawn at a clinic. Vials had clinic name on them

THE NATION: US embassy would “neither confirm nor deny” the US tipped off Thailand on sabotage, said a reporter who tried contacting the embassy.
THE NATION: Don’t get Pheu Thai MPs to resign, Thaksin warned red-shirts. GOVT won’ t react to the pressure. No surprise there, embassies never confirm this kind of thing.

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TAN Network: RedCross:THL needs 120 million CCs of blood per year or avg of 600,000 CCs daily.70% used to treat accident victims.
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Somtow: A million Thais shold donate blood to help patients if u r sick of voodoo politics or GOVt deserved run over by mobs.

At least the #redshirt blood collection is more hygienic that the PAD rubbing sanitary pads on statues for voodoo magic. (puke)

Nation: Don’t get Pheu Thai MPs to resign, Thaksin warned red-shirts. GOVT won’ t react to the pessure.

Nation: A background of the “sabotage” story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/search/rea…it+and+sabotage

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[Rosarin]

Nation: Latest red plan: After pouring blood at Gov House at 4pm, they’ll move to Democrat HQ to pour more blood. PM’s house has to wait till 2mrrw.
Red shirted leader Weng will announce how much blood they got at 3.30pm before marching to Govt House to throw the blood at 4pm.
Bangkok Post: Govt offers help to homesick protesters
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Thaivisa: blood collection points being swamped. Ppl want their blood poured at Thailand Gov. House
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US’ SABOTAGE WARNING
Show me the evidence : Thaksin

Ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra on Tuesday challenged Abhisit Government to show evidence to prove a claim that he may be behind an attempt to stage a sabotage in Thailand.

“It was the same old (Deputy PM) Suthep Thaugsuban that spread the news that foreign intelligence agencies tapped my telephone conversations. He went further that I am behind an attempt to stage a sabotage in Thailand,” Thaksin tweeted in thaksinlive.

“Suthep should provide evidence to back up the claims. Suthep is 60 years old and is old enough to stop making up stories,” Thaksin said. The reports came as the red

Thaksin, who was reportedly seen in Montenegro last week, said that he would like to thank all red shirts who joined the protests to demand for return of democracy to the country.

Military and government sources said earlier that a recent “sabotage” warning which featured in Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva’s statement came from the United States.

The sources said early this month that intelligence reports pointed to the possibility of sabotage taking place during red-shirted rally. He did not say where the intelligence reports had come from.

The sources said the warning had been conveyed by the United States using information provided by intelligence officials.

Apart from Abhisit, the Thai Army also received similar information.

The US Embassy on Tuesday was not available for comment.

— The Nation 2010-03-16

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Thaivisa member: Coincidentally – the thai lotto results are due out at the same time. Conspiracy or fate? you decide.
Bangkokdan: Cursing rituals seem to be the red marchers’ favorite pastime so far. Thank goodness the army made them giggle yesterday. You could go nuts
Thai News: Banks near rally sites closed
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TAN Network: Prince Akishino, the second son of Emperor Akihito, canceled his planned visit to Thailand due to political unrest in the country.
MCOT: Police ban entry to Government House, lineup to prepare negotiations as Red Shirts due to pour blood at gates at 4 pm
Thaivisa member: are the reds so stupid and believe they can walk onto the compound?
Thaivisa member quote: “The next step will be suicide.”
THE NATION: State lottery results Mar.16: 1st prize 364222, last 3-digits 619, 996, 229, 756, last 2-digits 97

Discussion thread:
Red Shirts Shot Themselves In The Foot?
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Red-Shirts-S…ot-t348066.html
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Siam Red leader says half of red shirts return home

BANGKOK: — Surachai Danwattananusorn, a leader of the Siam Red group, said Tuesday that about half of red-shirt people have returned home and the remaining protesters are expected to be defeated by their own fatigue in one or two days.

“Now, the government is leaving the protesters to lose strength, which it is approaching that point in one or two days and then everything will be over,” Surachai said.

He said he was preparing to return home in Nakhon Si Thammarat.

He said the red-shirt trio leaders had failed in their strategy.

— The Nation 2010-03-16
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TAN Network: Red shirt protesters set up procession to march to Gov’t House to spill blood collected all day

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Thaivisa: several thousand marching, battle music again
TAN Network: Red-shirts begin their march to spill blood at Govt House. Authorities have firefighting trucks & disinfectant ready.
Thaivisa: monks blessing ppl
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Red shirts march to Government House to spill bloods

Red shirts start moving from Pan Fah Bridge Tuesday to spill bloods they collected from their comrades at the Government House.

They claimed that they could collect about one milion cc. of blood.

— The Nation 2010-03-16
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TAN Network: Red shirts claim they gathered 300,000 cc of blood today; will march on to Democrat HQ once done with Gov’t House

THE NATION: News meeting just ended. We were getting info on many reds arriving home from Bkk.
Question is, what about the rest? Our political team is doing analysis on this question. How longer can the reds hold out?

TAN Network: Red-shirts to participate in Brahmin rite to curse the elites in power,enemies to democracy before spilling blood at Govt House.
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TAN: Only 100 redshirts are being allowed inside Govt house compound

Nation: Ok, weak hearts stay away from this link. But first let me faint. http://tweetphoto.com/14588041

TAN: Red-shirt leaders try to negotiate w/ police authorites for permission to approach Govt House.4,000 police & soldiers on standby

A ritual will be performed first at Govt House before the reds will pour the blood.

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TV: Blood ready to be splashed!

BangkokDan: Rituals instead of politics: They don’t have the slightest clue what fools they make of themselves

Sajal: blood spraying ritual? WTF? i can bet you 1000 Baht that bhuddhism doesnt have such things…. they gonna pour blood on Abhisit’s home tomorrow? thats dangeriously close to my home….

BangkokDan: Ah, double standards: If I throw away litter I get fined 2,000 baht. They throw away liters of blood & get help from officials

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Protesters pour blood at main gate of Government House

Red-shirt protesters poured their pooled blood at the main gate of the Government House at 5 pm Tuesday.

— The Nation 2010-03-16

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TAN: The red-shirt protesters were able to approach Government House. Brahmin rite was performed before blood was spilled.

Nation: No more boat noodle for me for two months!!

SET: Thai stock index gains 17.37 points or 2.36% to close at 752.20, value Bt27,395 mln

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TAN Network: The red-shirt protesters were able to approach Government House. Brahmin rite was performed before blood was spilled

MCOT: Red shirts pour blood at Government House gates seeking ‘true democracy’; PM visits drough-stricken in northern region

TAN Network: Red-shirts to travel to PM Abhisit house on Sukhumvit road to spill blood there tomorrow.

Bangkokpundit: P2: they have a few day for a few more stunts, but need 2 find an exit strategy. stay for too long & occupy streets will just annoy ppl.

TAN Network: BKK authority prepare water trucks,to clean blood off streets with washing detergent. Won’t kill germs.

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THE NATION: All macho men at Gov House -reporters, police, soldiers- jumped like teenage girls as blood was being poured.
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TAN Network: Army Specialist Gen Khatiya S. declares that reds have lost the war; thinks Jatuporn should torch himself

Bangkokdan: Various sources that many Isaan democracy fighters on their last legs. Tired, homesick, w/o sticky rice & fermented fish. Ready to go home
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TAN Network: Red-shirt protesters arrive at Democrats HQ,no blood poured yet.Security tight. Mobile detention units block access.

TAN Network: Team from Wachira Hospital completes its clean up of blood at Gov’t House
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Uniformed policeman speaks to redshirt rally

BANGKOK: — A policeman Tuesday addressed the protesting red shirts and accused the government of destroying police dignity.

Police Senior Sergeant Major Ubon Suwanklang, who said he is from the Police Aviation Division, was in his uniform while addressing the crowd at the protest site on the Phan Fah Bridge.

“This government has done a lot to destroy the police’s dignity. Now no officers are pleased to work for the government,” he said.

Ubon, who also took his young son on stage, said there were many police and soldiers among the protesters although they did not wear their uniforms. “I can tell they are not fake police or soldiers,” he added.

The non commissioned policeman said he was not afraid of retaliatory action due to his decision to join the antigovernment protest, saying he would resign from the service if he became a victim of persecution.

— The Nation 2010-03-16

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TAN Network: Red shirts reach Democrat headquarters
MCOT: Red Shirt protesters pour blood at Democrat Party headquarters

Related topic
Thai protests turn bloody — but not violent
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Thai-Protest…ol-t348158.html

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BangkokDan: Reds are getting desperate; they have to call it a day soon – or alter strategy: small hardcore factions + selected escalation

Nation: Blood has arrived at Democrat HQ. About 20 6-litre bottles overall. Red shirts spill blood at Democrat HQ; considerably more than amount spilt at Gov’t House

Bangkok Post: Reds complete blood ritual

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My (George) personal opinion:

Redshirts #fail
Thaksin #fail
gohome #good idea

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MCOT: Health officials, City Hall workers clean all blood-tainted areas at Government House gates

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[Rosarin]

TAN: PM arrives back in Bangkok;heads to National Peacekeeping Command

Nation: Protesters at Pan Fah Bridge resolved to designate Arisman to lead blood-pouring at PM’s house tomorrw.
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[Thaisambo]

Är inte det där slabbandet med blod en rätt makaber demonstrationsåtgärd?

Sjukhusen lär väl ha bättre nytta av det än att det prompt ska hällas ut vid regeringsbyggnaden …..

[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Protesters plan to head to PM’s house in Soi Sukhumvit 31 at 9am tomorrow. Check the traffic on Sukhumvit area if you need to go there.
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Jag håller med dig Thaisambo, det är äckligt hur de håller på.
Blod räddar liv, är det väl Blodgivarna i Sverige brukar säga.
Som om det inte redan är blodbrist på Bkk:s sjukhus.
Tufft beslut av Röda korset att inte av sitt blod om någon demonstrant skulle behöva pga olycka. Ganska hårt beslut men jag förstår hur det måste kännas för dem som kämpar med alla medel för att få blodet att räcka till alla som råkar ut för olyckor.

[Travaren]

Ja. Röda korset har väl rätt som alla andra att ha en åsikt om blod och eventuella smittsamma överföringar vid lämnandet av blodet. Jag tror dock att det finns någon sjuksköterskeexaminerad bland alla risbönder.

Undrar bara om Röda korset förstått att det är en politisk kamp, om nya fria val.

[Bangkok Info]

Var ute och tittade idag också. Först en sväng till sanam luang där många av röd tröjorna har sovit över under helgen På eftermiddagen var det en del äldre som låg och vilade.

Sen vart det upp till ratchadamnoen avenue där man i början av gatan höll tal från scenen. Kl 16.45 började några tusen att marschera som ett långt demonstrationståg. Svårt att uppskatta en stor folkmassa men det var väl kanske knappt 20.000 rödtröjor på området.

Men missade tyvärr när dom hällde ut blodet..

[Rosarin]

Hej!

Thaivisa har just nu problem med sin server i Bkk står det på deras hemsida.
Det går inte att komma åt tråden där de uppdaterar nyheterna.

Kan också tillägga att det har regnat ordentligt under förmiddagen i Bkk och det regnar fortfarande men inte lika våldsamt.

Jag har läst lite på tannetwork.tv och där står bl a. :

Red Shirts Delay March to PM’s House to 10 A.M.
UPDATE : 17 March 2010
Red shirt leaders have delayed their march to the prime minister’s house to 10 A.M. to avoid causing traffic congestion. They are now in the process of setting up the procession which is to leave for the prime minister’s house on Sukumvit Soi 31.

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PM All Smiles as Red Shirts Approach His House in Sukumvit
UPDATE : 17 March 2010
The INN news agency reported that Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva was all smiles as he left for Hat Yai a little while ago. He is attending Superintendent Sompien Eksomya’s royally sponsored cremation ceremony.

Superintendent Sompien was killed in a bomb attack in Yala province last week after serving in the south for nearly 40 years.

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Streets to Avoid Today
UPDATE : 17 March 2010
Red shirt protesters to leave Pan Fah Bridge area using Lan Luang Road, passing Yommarat Intersection proceeding to Petchaburi Road.

From there, they will turn right into Ratchavitee Road then crossing over Hua Chang Bridge. They will then turn left to pass in front of Siam Paragon heading down to the Ploenchit area. News reports suggest they will stop at the British Embassy at the Wittiyu Intersection then proceed all the way down Sukumvit Road to Soi 31, where Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva’s residence is located.

On their way back, reports suggest the red shirt protesters will head back up Sukumvit Road to the Wittiyu Intersection and will make another stop at the U.S. Embassy before heading back to the Pan Fah Bridge area.

Motorists and commuters are advised to avoid these areas as traffic is expected to be closed down at certain points. The procession is expected to leave the Pan Fah area around 10 A.M.

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Heavy Traffic Through Business District as Reds March
UPDATE : 17 March 2010
The main procession of red shirts has caused deadlock traffic at the Yommarat intersection. Heavy congestion in the area of Sukumvit and Asoke as supporters gather in the business district to join main march.

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Democrats Cleanse HQ After Blood Spill
UPDATE : 17 March 2010
Democrat Party members and officials pay respects to the Earth Goddess in front of their headquarters after red shirt protesters spilled large amounts of blood there yesterday evening.

The Earth Goddess is the official emblem of the Democrat Party and is believed to be the party’s guardian angel. In Thailand, the Earth Goddess is the equivalent of Mother Nature.

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[Rosarin]

THAKSIN DRAR PARALLELLER MELLAN ABHISIT OCH HITLER:

Thaksin Draws Comparison between Abhisit and Hitler
UPDATE : 17 March 2010
Thaksin said via a video conference call to the Red Shirt protesters that the government has been bribing protesters to leave the rally.

The ousted premier also claimed that Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has a mental disorder similar to Adolf Hitler’s.

At the Red Shirt rally at Phanfa Lilat Bridge in Bangkok, fugitive former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra made another video conference call to his supporters.

Thaksin has accused the government of trying to bribe some protestors into leaving the rally and said that someone laced the protestors’ water with poison.

However, the ousted premier thanked his supporters and asked them to remain patient, saying that the current government has a hearing problem.

Thaksin also talked about the yesterday’s blood collection. He said that despite the disapproval of many people, the Red Shirt protesters have done the right thing in sacrificing their blood for democracy.

In his speech to the Red Shirt protesters, the fugitive former prime minister claimed that Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has some psychological condition similar to Adolf Hitler’s.

Thaksin added that just like the German schizophrenic dictator, Abhisit does not like to talk alone, has problems controlling his ambitions, and violent tendencies.

Thaksin also said that Abhisit is surrounded by homosexuals with emotional problems.

Toward the end of this call, Thaksin thanked his supporters again and urged them to continue their fight against the government for the sake of the younger generations.

However, he warned the protesters that the government might resort to violence since Abhisit has a mental disorder.

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[Rosarin]

Red-shirts Pour Blood on Front Gate of PM’s Home
UPDATE : 17 March 2010
Red-shirt protesters have managed to get pass blockades set up by security officers and poured blood on one of the pillars at the front gate of PM Abhisit Vejjajiva’s house on Sukhumvit 31.

Kockan är just nu 12.08 Bkk, lokal tid

[Rosarin]

Ok, thaivisas server verkar fungera igen.

Here we go, Onsdag 17 mars 2010, Bkk, Thailand:

TAN Network: Around 1,000 security personnel at/around PM’s house on Sukumvit 31; 3 fire trucks, 9 inmate transport trucks on hand
TAN Network: INN: Reds show 2 bombs allegedly planted in their rally; setting up procession to leave for PM’s house

Photos from yesterday’s events at Government house
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=…t&p=3422537

TAN Network:
Red Shirts Delay March to PM’s House to 10 A.M.
Red shirt leaders have delayed their march to the prime minister’s house to 10 A.M. to avoid causing traffic congestion.
They are now in the process of setting up the procession which is to leave for the prime minister’s house on Sukumvit Soi 31.
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10 more companies of security forces deployed to PM’s house

BANGKOK: — Ten more companies of police and soldiers have been deployed to reinforce 6 companies of security officials at the house of the prime minister following the threat by red-shirt people to rally there Wednesday.

The police and soldiers put up warped wires around the house of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on Soi Sukhumvit 31 and strictly checked vehicles passing through the soi.

The red-shirt people threatened to go to Abhisit’s house to pour their collected blood in protest.

No family members of the prime minister are inside the house Wednesday.

— The Nation 2010-03-17

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Streets to Avoid Today

BANGKOK: — Red shirt protesters to leave Pan Fah Bridge area using Lan Luang Road, passing Yommarat Intersection proceeding to Petchaburi Road.

From there, they will turn right into Ratchavitee Road then crossing over Hua Chang Bridge. They will then turn left to pass in front of Siam Paragon heading down to the Ploenchit area.

News reports suggest they will stop at the British Embassy at the Wittiyu Intersection then proceed all the way down Sukumvit Road to Soi 31, where Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva’s residence is located.

On their way back, reports suggest the red shirt protesters will head back up Sukumvit Road to the Wittiyu Intersection and will make another stop at the U.S. Embassy before heading back to the Pan Fah Bridge area.

Motorists and commuters are advised to avoid these areas as traffic is expected to be closed down at certain points. The procession is expected to leave the Pan Fah area around 10 A.M.
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Thaivisa: And away they go. Best stay clear of Sukhumvit Rd area everyone

Some 2,000 red shirts move to PM’s house

BANGKOK: — At 9:15 am Wednesday, some 2,000 red-shirt people arrived at the front of Soi Sukhumvit 31 where the house of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva is located.

They arrived on motorcycles and pick-up trucks to pour their pooled blood in front of Abhisit’s house.

The protesters were waiting for their leaders to catch up with them.

They caused traffic gridlock on the inbound Sukhumvit.

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MCOT: Some Red Shirt protesters arrive at entrance road to PM’s home; police blocking road as Sukhumvit experiences heavy traffic
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Suthep invokes ISA to ban rally at PM’s house

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban invoked the Internal Security Act to band demonstrations on Soi Sukhumvit 31 from March 17 to 23.

The house of the prime minister is located on the soi.

The order of Suthep assigned the Metropolitan Police Division 5 to enforce the ban against the demonstration.

Vehicles are also prohibited from entering the soi.

But some 2,000 red-shirt protesters gathered in front of the soi at 9: 15 am.

— The Nation 2010-03-17

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Red-shirt protesters decamp to Thai PM’s residence

by Anusak Konglang

BANGKOK (AFP) – Red-shirted protesters on Wednesday decamped to the residence of Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva but their four-day rally in support of their deposed political hero appeared to be petering out.

Thousands of “Red Shirts”, loyal to fugitive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, began moving across Bangkok from their rally ground near government offices to the affluent Sukhumvit district, most by truck, car and motorcycle.

The move came a day after the protesters pressed their demand for Abhisit to resign in a bizarre bloody spectacle, when they made a mass collection of 300 litres of their own blood that was symbolically spilled at his office gates.

Police said over 10,000 protesters remained on Wednesday, far down from the rally’s peak of more than 100,000 in attendance when it began at the weekend, and despite repeated calls by Red leaders and Thaksin himself for them to stay.

But even as numbers dwindled, protest leaders pleaded for patience and said success was within their grasp.

“We are near victory…. If we make a mistake now we will be defeated for a long time. We want a sustainable victory so please be patient,” Red Shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan urged the crowd on Wednesday before leaving for Abhisit’s empty and heavily secured residence.

The Reds are protesting against the perceived elitism and illegitimacy of the Abhisit government, which came to power via a December 2008 parliamentary vote after a controversial court ruling ousted Thaksin’s allies.

Last month another court decision confiscated 1.4 billion dollars from Thaksin, whose followers are largely from the poor rural north and fervently support the populist policies he introduced before being ousted in a 2006 coup.

Abhisit has been staying with other key leaders at an army barracks in the capital’s northern outskirts since the rally began, and the protesters massed there briefly on Monday as he refused their demand to call snap elections.

On Wednesday he was due to fly to Thailand’s far south, where a six-year separatist insurgency continues.

The government enacted a strict Internal Security Act to monitor the Bangkok rally, deploying 50,000 soldiers and police across the city and surrounding provinces as it feared violence by saboteurs.

Some 900 policemen have been standing guard at Abhisit’s residence, which has been hit several times in recent weeks by protesters throwing bags of excrement at the walls.

The premier has twice rejected the crowd’s demand to dissolve parliament, saying he must think of the country’s interests and not only those of the Reds.

A joint session of both houses of parliament was postponed on Tuesday due to the lack of a quorum, with some lawmakers fearing for their safety in the ongoing demonstrations, parliamentary officials said.

Police said with falling numbers of demonstrators, they expected the rally to end within a few days. Red Shirt leaders have been using their rally stage to appeal for more protesters to arrive from the provinces.

Thaksin, who lives in exile to avoid a two-year jail term for graft at home, has spoken to the crowd via video link each night, urging them to fight on.

Tensions rose on Monday when four grenades exploded at a separate army barracks in Bangkok but it was not clear if the attacks were linked to the Red Shirts, whose leaders deny involvement.

Since the coup that ousted Thaksin, Thailand has been rocked by protests from both supporters and opponents of the former premier.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-17
Published with written approval from AFP.

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TAN Network: Democrat Party members/officials pay respects to Earth Goddess in front of headquarters after red shirts spilled large amounts of blood
Red shirt leaders negotiating with police to allow all protesters in front of PM’s house;police to only allow “some”
THE NATION: Protesters carrying gallons of blood are about 30 mins away from Abhisit’s house, having had to go through many checkpoints.
MCOT: Red Shirts brave rain, penetrrate first police cordon into Sukhumvit Soi 31 to reach PM home for blood pouring; traffic worsens

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TAN Network: Channel 3: Reds sending academics to hand letter to U.K. and U.S. embassies; going back to Pan Fah after PM’s house

Thaivisa: The redshirt blood ceremony makes sense now. It was a rain ceremony to break the drought. Bucketing down at Phan Fa Bridge now.

TAN Network: INN: Ayutthaya police confiscate 6,000 M16 machine gun parts; suspects claim Lopburi military ordered them

THE NATION: Red shirts have arrived at Abhisit’s house. Noisy scene. Someone is shouting “Don’t throw. Don’t throw”. It looks worrisome as Abhisit’s home is like yr and my home.

THE NATION: Some protesters were trying to throw bags of blood into his home, prompting the “Don’t throw” “Don’t throw” shouts.

TAN Network: Red shirts able to approach fence of PM’s house; pour blood on pillar; splash some inside

THE NATION: Abhisit’s home is in a very bad location for things like this. Hope the situation won’t go wrong. Too many people, too small an area.

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THE NATION: Protesters are just about to leave the PM’s House. Avoid the traffic along Sukhumvit Rd esp all sois connected to 31. Rama IV’s better.

TAN Network: Bottles of blood pour at fence of PM’s house; security officials re-erect human wall to guard against further violations

THE NATION: Public Health Minister Jurin Laksanavisit said 3 redshirt protesters were injured and 13 have fallen ill.

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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Jurin said the amount of redshirt protesters was decreased. He estimates only 30,000 people now are joining the demonstration.

THE NATION: But hey, it’s over now. Credit to the protesters who did scare me for a while but didn’t create much trouble. They are moving to US embassy

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THE NATION: Arisman said the reds plan to ask US Embassy this question: “Did u really tap Thaksin’s phone?”
In that case we are thankful (J/K), as we have tried unsuccessfully to get a reaction from the embassy to the story.
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THE NATION: Arisman said the reds plan to ask US Embassy this question: “Did u really tap Thaksin’s phone?”
In that case we are thankful (J/K), as we have tried unsuccessfully to get a reaction from the embassy to the story.

TAN Network: Reds start to disperse from PM’s house

THE NATION: The traffic won’t be OK at least for an hour or 2 as the protesters are heading to American embassy. They’re taking the Petchburi Rd.
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[Rosarin]

Ok, jag sticker till Tesco nu.

klipper in mer när jag kommer hem.

Här är länken om ni vill läsa på thaivisa själva:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Red-Shirt-Rally-Live-Upda-t348232.html

[Rosarin]

Red-clad protesters pour blood at Thai PM’s residence

by Thanaporn Promyamyai

BANGKOK (AFP) – Thai protesters poured their own blood at the gates of the prime minister’s residence Wednesday, but their four-day rally backing their ousted political hero appeared to be running out of steam.

Thousands of red-shirted protesters loyal to fugitive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra massed in heavy rain at a police barricade outside the building, as a small group spilled the blood.

Police said a 1,000-strong security force had been deployed and six checkpoints set up around the residence of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva in the affluent Sukhumvit district of Bangkok, where the Reds paralysed traffic.

The protesters’ bizarre bloody spectacle began a day earlier, when they pressed their demand for Abhisit to resign by making a mass collection of 300 litres of their own blood, some of which was later poured at his office gates.

Police said more than 10,000 protesters remained in the capital Wednesday, down significantly from the rally’s peak of more 100,000-plus at the weekend, and despite repeated calls by Red leaders and Thaksin himself for them to stay.

But even as numbers dwindled, protest leaders pleaded for patience and said success was within their grasp.

“We are near victory…. If we make a mistake now we will be defeated for a long time.

We want a sustainable victory so please be patient,” Red Shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan urged the crowd on Wednesday before leaving for Abhisit’s empty and heavily secured residence.

After their bloody display, the Reds said they would picket the US embassy. They were angered Tuesday by remarks from the deputy prime minister who cited a US intelligence report that said Thaksin had ordered his supporters to incite violence.

The Reds are protesting against the perceived elitism and illegitimacy of the Abhisit government, which came to power via a December 2008 parliamentary vote after a controversial court ruling ousted Thaksin’s allies.

Last month another court decision confiscated 1.4 billion dollars from Thaksin, whose followers are largely from the poor rural north and fervently support the populist policies he introduced before being ousted in a 2006 coup.

“I hope this blood spilling will work and (Abhisit) will get out of office soon,” said Kaew Saengthong, a 37-year-old farmer from Chiang Mai, here since Friday.

“We can’t let him run the country anymore. We are dying because we have nothing to eat — the economy is so bad,” she said.

Abhisit has been staying with other key leaders at an army barracks in the capital’s northern outskirts since the rally began, and the protesters massed there briefly on Monday as he refused their demand to call snap elections.

On Wednesday he was due to fly to Thailand’s far south, where a six-year separatist insurgency continues.

The government enacted a strict Internal Security Act to monitor the Bangkok rally, deploying 50,000 soldiers and police across the city and surrounding provinces as it feared violence by saboteurs.

Abhisit’s residence has been hit several times in recent weeks by protesters throwing bags of excrement at the walls. As riot police guarded his home on Wednesday, many used their plastic shields as umbrellas in the heavy rain.

The premier has twice rejected the crowd’s demand to dissolve parliament, saying he must think of the country’s interests and not only those of the Reds.

Police said with falling numbers of demonstrators, they expected the rally to end within a few days. Red Shirt leaders have been using their rally stage to appeal for more protesters to arrive from the provinces.

Thaksin, who lives in exile to avoid a two-year jail term for graft at home, has spoken to the crowd via video link each night, urging them to fight on.

Since the coup that ousted Thaksin, Thailand has been rocked by protests from both supporters and opponents of the former premier.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-17
Published with written approval from AFP.

[Nille]

Det verkar som om det är över nu?

[Rosarin]

Ja det verkar ha lugnat sig. Det skrivs att de röda börjar längta hem.

Men de har tydligen varit och härjat utanför USA:s ambassad lite idag.
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TAN Network: U.S. Embassy Public Announcement: UDD demonstration in front of U.S. Embassy. More here: http://bit.ly/9O7oZy

THE NATION: Public Health Minister Jurin Laksanavisith has instructed Emergency Medical Centers across country to be ready for the sabotage.

MCOT: Democrats to decide Thursday whether or not to take legal action against Red Shirt bloodpourers at party headquarters;video footage recorded
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Red-shirt disperse from US embassy after inquiring about sabotage reports

BANGKOK: — Red-shirt protesters dispersed from the US embassy at 1:15 pm Wednesday after their leaders submitted a letter to the embassy officials.

Jatuporn Promphan and other leaders met the embassy officials for about 20 minutes and came outside to tell the protesters that the embassy would not confirm the reports that former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra had been eavesdropped US intelligence officials ordering certain red-shirt leaders to carry out sabotage.

Jatuporn said the embassy officials told him to find out about the reports from Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban who leaked the reports.

As a result, Jatuporn concluded that Suthep made up the story.

— The Nation 2010-03-17

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Thai anti-government protesters picket US embassy

BANGKOK (AFP) – Thousands of Thai anti-government protesters picketed the US embassy in Bangkok Wednesday, accusing American intelligence officials of bugging exiled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

The red-shirted demonstrators, who have been calling on the government to step down since beginning mass protests at the weekend, moved to the embassy in central Bangkok following another protest at the prime minister’s residence.

They said the United States had accused Thaksin of inciting violence after intercepting phone calls by the billionaire former leader.

The rumour, which first appeared in Thai media on Tuesday, started spreading after deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban told reporters that foreign intelligence had warned of violence.

He did not mention the United States specifically, although the Thai press and Red Shirt leaders did.

“The US must clarify Suthep’s remark when he said that the US bugged Thaksin’s phone, and claimed that Thaksin will commit sabotage,” Red Shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan told the crowd atop a truck outside the embassy.

Jatuporn then submitted a letter to an embassy representative with six other Red Shirts before the group began to depart.

US embassy spokesman Michael Turner told AFP that officials had been given advance warning of the protest.

“The Thai police have increased their presence here. It seems to be going peacefully,” he said, declining to comment on intelligence matters.

Thaksin was ousted in a coup in 2006 and lives in exile to avoid a two-year jail term for graft at home, where his followers are largely from the poor rural north and fervently support the populist policies he introduced.

Earlier a group of his backers poured hundreds of litres (pints) of their own blood at the gates of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva’s Bangkok residence.

Police said more than 10,000 protesters remained in the capital Wednesday, down significantly from the rally’s peak of 100,000-plus at the weekend.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-17
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TAN Network: INN: Korat red shirts donate 1,000 cc of blood; pours it on picture of Gen Prem Tinsulanonda
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[bangkokbusen]

Grabben kom precis hem från skolan i Nonthaburi och inga rödtröjor i sikte vare sig på vägen hem eller på Sukhumvit så de verkar ha förflyttat sig igen.Jag själv åkte till Hua Hin efter lunch och hade inga trafikbekymmer eller demonstrationer på vägen.

[Rosarin]

Låter bra Bkkbusen! 🙂
Går din son på Sacred Heart convent school?

Nille: Det känns som om det värsta är över men man vet ju aldrig. Hoppas nu bara inte att rödskjortorna gör något i ren desperation. Man tycker ju att de borde fatta att PM inte kommer att upplösa regeringen och inte heller avgå, trots alla försök.

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Här är mer nyheter:

THE NATION: Back from two meetings. Our newsroom today seeks to analyse how this is going to end. Conclusion: Perhaps two more nervy days.

THE NATION: Bkk rally will end soon, but places to watch in next two days are provincial halls. If nothing happens, then nothing to worry about.

THE NATION: Panthongtae has tweeted that he, his sisters and Thaksin are in Montenegro.
While I was away, the red shirts submitted a letter to the US Embassy regarding the “sabotage” allegations and moved back to main rally site

Thaivisa: SET hit a 19 month high, closed at 765.54, up 13.34
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TAN Network: PM arrives back in BKK; refuses to comment on reports of assassination plots

TAN Network: Red-shirts to seek onair time on state-run Channel 11 to tell public about red-shirts’ flight for democracy.
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[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Metro police confirm suspicions of assassination plot; 5-6 suspected groups kept under close watch; 400 patrol teams watching reds

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Nu undrar man ju vad tusan som är i görningen??
Är det mord uppe på tapeten nu?
Jag hoppas att detta INTE stämmer!!

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Police officer faces disciplinary probe for addressing red shirts while on duty

BANGKOK: — The uniformed policeman who addressed the redshirt rally on Tuesday would be subjected to a disciplinary investigation, city police spokesman MajGeneral Piya Uthayo said Wednesday.

The Police Aviation Division’s Pol Senior Sergeant Major Ubon Suwanklang’s behaviour was reported to his supervisor by the Metropolitan Police, Piya explained.

He added that the officer would have to undergo investigation because voicing personal political opinions while in uniform is a disciplinary offence, though it is not too severe.

Investigators will also check if Ubon had been addressing the protesters while on duty.

The investigation team would also determine if Ubon’s speech could be considered a libel offence, for which he might face legal action, Piya said.

— The Nation 2010-03-17
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[Rosarin]

Minister Confirms Reports on Plot to Kill PM
UPDATE : 17 March 2010
The Prime Minister’s Office minister admits there have been reports on a plot to assassinate the premier.

Prime Minister Office’s Minister Sathit Wong-nongtoey said he has received reports on planned assassination of the prime minister but he is still unsure which party has engineered the plot.

Commenting on the red-shirt group’s splattering of blood at the prime minister’s residence, Sathit said such a move was not appropriate and he noted the group was running its campaign without a certain direction.
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Sathit insisted the prime minister still has no policy to crack down on the demonstration or take legal action against the group’s core leaders.

Sathit also revealed the national peacekeeping center was worried about the red-shirt protesters’ current directionless moves without good coordination by their leaders.

The minister also said the society will not support the claim by fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra that the red-shirt protest is a class struggle.

He reiterated the the Internal Security Act is still sufficient to contain the rally while the government will exercise restraint

Sathit today accepted an open letter from the Nonviolence Network and media representatives calling for a wide exchange of the viewpoints to seek a solution for political crisis and the way to have a fair election.

He assured them the government will not use force in handling the protesters as they are not its enemies but it will seek viewpoints on the political crisis through parliamentary means.
He pledged to forward their demands and advises to the prime minister.

[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Surachai sae Dan, a hardlined Red leader, has taken his red followers home and condemned the “three buddies” for their “utter” failure.
Surachai proposed that Jakapob Penkair, now on the run, be named new redshirt leader.
Veera, on the other hand, has strongly defended the “peaceful” approach.
“Please be the judges if our approach is not right”, Veera told crowd. “If u still want 3of us to lead, we r willing to devote our lives”
“Surachai and Seh Daeng are not our friends” Veera said.
The red movement seems to be getting messier now.Nuttawut speaking next.
“We shall go our separate ways”, Nuttawut said of Seh Daeng-Surachai.
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THE NATION: “Our rally has been non-violent, which is acknowledged by international media,” Nuttawut media.

[Thaisambo]

Att skvätta ner med blod vid regeringsbyggnaden är ju nedskräpning och kostar väl saneringsarbete även i Thailand. Har de inte funderat på vem som ska bekosta blodsaneringen?

F ö förstår jag om de röda ledsnar. Det är väl det som strategin går ut på, en ignorativ strategi för att få dem att ledsna. Men tidningarna driver ju på genom att ge spektakulära påhitt uppmärksamhet förstås.

[Rosarin]

THE NATION: “Our rally has been non-violent, which is acknowledged by international media,” Nuttawut media.

THE NATION: Pessimists may think , though, that this might be a tactical breakup (to free up hardliners for harsher measures).

THE NATION: Nuttawut vowed a protracted albeit peaceful gathering. Like when yellow shirts prevented pro-Thaksin governments from functioning.
“We can take turn. let’s see how long govt can bear with this. When some of us go home, others will replace them,” Nuttawut said.
“let’s see what they can do if they can’t enter govt house or their home and have to travel anywhere in secrecy,” Nuttawut said.

THE NATION: “This Saturday we will have a special activity, taking all kinds of vehicles to all directions in Bangkok,” Nuttawut said.

THE NATION: Nuttawut’s last statement may stretch his non-violent claim. We shall see.

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Red shirts declare social class war; to march on streets of Bkk again Mar 20

[Rosarin]

Red-shirts to Create Disruption in BKK on Saturday

BANGKOK: — The red-shirt group announced plans to create disruptions in Bangkok on Saturday by asking their supporters to take to the streets and drive around the capital to cause traffic congestion.

The group’s three leaders also denounced other red-shirt groups such as that led by Army Specialist Major General Khattiya Sawasdipol and the group led by Surachai Darnwattananusorn.

On calls by other red-shirt groups for them to step down, the three red-shirt leaders, Weera Musikapong, Nutthawut Saigua, Jatuporn Prompan affirmed to stay on to lead this red-shirt gathering.

— Tan Network 2010-03-17
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TAN Network: INN: Metro police prepare to request arrest warrants for red leaders for throwing bags of blood into PM’s house
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Och här trodde vi att det var över nu, men det verkar som om den andra vågens demonstranter är på väg emot BKK nu till helgen.
När ska detta ta slut????????

[Rosarin]

UPDATE : 17 March 2010
Several banks have temporarily ordered several branches located in high-risk areas to close early today; including Krungthai Bank’s MBK branch (7 p.m.) and Khao San Rd branch (4.30 p.m.). Branches that are closed altogether are Krungthai bank’s sub-branch at Government House, sub-branch at Parliament and Ratchadamnoen branch.

Nakhonluang Thai Bank’s Ratchadamnoen branch is closed while Bank of Ayudhya remains opened

[Thaisambo]

@Rosarin wrote:

TAN Network: Red shirts declare social class war; to march on streets of Bkk again Mar 20

Från Wikipedia:

Klasskamp
Klasskamp är ett socialpolitiskt slagord och teori. Tanken om socialt framåtskridande genom klasskamp utgör ett centralt politiskt begrepp inom socialismen. Begreppet används för att beteckna kampen mellan arbetsköpare (kapitalister) och arbetare (arbetarklassen). Klasskampen är i grunden en benämning på den intressekonflikt som finns mellan arbete och kapital. I korthet handlar det om att arbetaren vill ha högre lön medan kapitalisten vill hålla arbetarens lön låg.

Lenin kritiserade denna “primitiva” form av klasskamp och menade att arbetaren inte kan nöja sig med höjda löner – de måste gripa makten för att uppnå den socialistiska fasen “proletariatets diktatur”. I större mening handlar klasskampen om medveten omstrukturering av arbetsplatser, en fabrik kan till exempel delas upp i ett flertal sektioner så att produktionen kan fortgå utan en eller flera sektioner som gått ut i strejk. Uttrycket präglades 1848 av Karl Marx i det Kommunistiska manifestet. Samtidigt och senare har en mängd likartade ord med klass som första led bildats och blivit gängse i den sociala och politiska diskussionen, till exempel klasshat, klassinstinkt, klassintresse, klasslag, klassmedvetande, klassmedveten (oftast liktydigt med socialistisk) och klassamhälle.

En motsats till klasskampen finns i klassamarbetet, som återfinns inom korporativismen. Den svenska modellen har länge präglats av klassamarbete; det kända Saltsjöbadsavtalet formaliserade det även om det hade pågått tidigare.

Föreställningen om klasskampen före Marx
Trots den utbredda uppfattningen att Karl Marx står bakom begreppet klasskamp, förekom föreställningen om samhällets splittring i klasser som kämpar mot varandra redan långt innan termen myntades. Således talade den franske historikern och politikern François Guizot (1787-1874) om Frankrikes historia och menade att “klassernas kamp fyller, eller rättare sagt, utgör hela dess historia”.

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Är det detta som är på gång nu? Man ska kanske vara tacksam över att den här demonstrationen trots allt är att uppfatta som småskalig.

[Rosarin]

TAN Network: INN: Metro police prepare to request arrest warrants for red leaders for throwing bags of blood into PM’s house

THE NATION: Re-organizing and re-adjusting strategies are the name of the game for reds at moment. Dust yet to settle down.
3buddies r telling Taksin: “V r proposing compact but protracted rally, yellow-shirt style to chip away at Gov stability. Will u buy this?”

Bangkokdan: Funny how ignorant you can be, they simply don’t realize that there’s absolutely no majority support

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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: I love this one. Seh Daeng has been quoted as saying, “You can’t get rid of me. Thaksin asked me to be the caretaker”.
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TAN Network: Bangkok Police confirm report of assassination attempt on PM Abhisit; 400 added patrol police deployed to ensure security at protest site

MCOT: Red Shirt leaders vow to prolong protest; to mobilise red-clad convoy across BKK to launch ‘first anti-class war’ in Thailand this Saturday

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[Rosarin]

TAN: TAN_Network INN: Metro police prepare to request arrest warrants for red leaders for throwing bags of blood into PM’s house

BangkokDan: Bangkokians won’t sympathize much with “yellow reds.” Govt may start clean-up soon. They get their martyrs, rest can move on

Nation: Thaksin’s phoning again, asking for red patience again, and attacking ammat and Abhisit again. “I’m not expelled from Dubai”, he said. “Please join us. U don’t need to wear red. Any colour and a heart that loves democracy will do”. He admitted he’s in Montenegro, though.

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Nation: He [Thaksin] asked Bangkokians to welcome red protesters marching on streets like cheering atheletes returning from Olympics with medals.
Thaksin: “Should we turn Phan Fah area into a walking street? Make it this way until we win?”
Thaksin compares himself to Columbus ???? The guy who proved the world is round. Some truth, he said, took long to be accepted.
Thaksin: “Channels 3,5,7,9 Do u have time to think if u r neutral? If u aren’t, we may pay you a visit. Don’t worry. We won’t do yellow shirts”

[Bangkok Info]

Lugnt i dag på stan också.

Förutom vissa trafik störningar då rödingarna har vandrat runt lite. Först runt lunchtid till PMs hus på sukhumvit soi 31. När jag gick förbi där vid 15 tiden var det bara lite poliser kvar utanför. Blodet hade man tvättat bort.

Sen har dom även varit utanför Amerikanska ambassaden för att lämnat över ett protestbrev för att dom, USA, hade lyssnat av ett telefonsamtal med Taksin och informerat Thailändska regeringen om det.

[sunsern]

@Thaisambo wrote:

Att skvätta ner med blod vid regeringsbyggnaden är ju nedskräpning och kostar väl saneringsarbete även i Thailand. Har de inte funderat på vem som ska bekosta blodsaneringen?

F ö förstår jag om de röda ledsnar. Det är väl det som strategin går ut på, en ignorativ strategi för att få dem att ledsna. Men tidningarna driver ju på genom att ge spektakulära påhitt uppmärksamhet förstås.

Hej Thaisambo! jag kommer på att behöver inte sanerare ,jag tro regering kan bjuda billiga bindor för suga bort dåliga blod,!!!(khon koo gan ,lööd sear toon sapp duay pha arnamaij) :thumbright:

[Rosarin]

God morgon!

Det verkar inte bli någon live-update tråd på thaivisa idag.
Den har i alla fall inte kommit upp ännu och nu är kl.9.00 Bkk-tid.
Idag känns av någon anledning mer som en vanlig normal dag.
Jag tänker i alla fall ge mig ner till stan idag.
Jag läste någon stans att folk tror att blodsritualen är svartkonst och häxkraft.

Ni som bor eller befinner er i Bkk just nu, hur känner ni inför lördagen?
Kommer ni att stanna hemma?

De röda ledarna verkar kämpa på för att hålla glöden uppe hos demonstranterna.

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Dwindling Thai protesters bid to keep up spirits

by Thanaporn Promyamyai

BANGKOK (AFP) – Red-clad Thai anti-government protesters promised entertainment for the crowds Thursday in a bid to boost dwindling numbers at their rally, vowing to step up demonstrations at the weekend.

The supporters of deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra have so far failed in their drive to bring down the government, despite headline-grabbing symbolic blood protests and a 100,000-strong demonstration at its peak on Sunday.

Police said 38,000 “Red Shirts” remained at their main rally site in Bangkok’s government quarter late Wednesday as many returned to their homes in rural provinces, some having been in the capital for five days.

But the group’s leaders remained defiant, announcing a day of meetings throughout Thursday to discuss tactics, followed by an evening of music and dancing — apparently designed to keep spirits and numbers high.

“We will have cultural performances on this stage from each region, in order to strengthen relationships of our Red Shirt people,” leader Nattawut Saikur told the crowds Wednesday evening.

He said the protest, which has been overseen by a massive contingent of security forces, would on Saturday “spread out on every road across Bangkok to appeal to more people to join us”.
“We are ready to prolong our rally until we win,” Nattawut added.

The Reds are campaigning to bring down the government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, which came to power via a December 2008 parliamentary vote after a controversial court ruling ousted Thaksin’s allies.

The mainly poor and rural followers of Thaksin, a billionaire telecoms tycoon who lives abroad to avoid a jail term for corruption, fervently support the populist policies he introduced before his ouster in a 2006 coup.

Despite waning numbers, their rally paralysed streets on Wednesday as most of the group left their base for Abhisit’s house, at which some threw bags of protesters’ blood.

It was their third display of crimson anger since Tuesday, when they pressed their demand for Abhisit’s resignation by collecting 300 litres (more than 600 US pints) of their own blood, some of which was poured at his office gates.

Government reaction to the bloody spectacles has been muted, but a minister attached to the prime minister’s office on Wednesday said it was “uncivilised”.

“Blood is a symbol of violence and hurling it at the house is saddening. The prime minister is speechless over this incident,” Satit Wongnhongtaey told reporters.

On Wednesday Abhisit flew to Thailand’s far south, where a six-year separatist insurgency is raging. Satit said intelligence reports had repeatedly warned of assassination attempts on Abhisit.

Some of the Reds delivered a letter to the British embassy in Bangkok Wednesday, saying they wanted to counter false British media reports about the protests.

Later a larger group peacefully picketed the US embassy, delivering a second letter of protest after unsubstantiated rumours that US intelligence officers had bugged a phone call of Thaksin and accused him of inciting violence.

Montenegrin police confirmed on Wednesday that Thaksin himself was in Montenegro, having travelled there on March 13 from Dubai.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-18

[Rosarin]

Det politiska läget i Thailand slår hårt mot turismen.

Red Shirt rally fallout: Tourists cancel 1,000 rooms per day in Bangkok

BANGKOK: — The Thai Hotels Association said Thursday that room cancellations in Bangkok have been made at about 1,000 rooms per day, although the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) has assessed Red Shirt demonstration in the capital has not had a great impact on tourism so far.

Thai Hotels Association director Sakrin Chorsawai said the demonstration has affected tourism operators, particularly in hotel businesses in Bangkok.

A significant drop in the number of foreign tourists was seen and room reservations fell some 10-20 per cent. About 1,000 rooms were canceled daily on average as tourists feared possible violence during the mass demonstrations, in particular from March 12-23, Mr Sakrin said.

However, tourism operators in other regions have not been affected, and are enjoying a normal rate of hotel bookings, he said.

Local tourists, who are worried about the political situation, do not travel. If the demonstration is prolonged, its negative effects on tourism will be clearly seen, said Mr Sakrin.

Meanwhile, TAT director Surapol Svetasreni said the tourism in January and February had recovered but since the Red Shirt protest began in Bangkok last week, the national agency is vigilant on the current situation to alleviate and to minimise possible effects on tourism.

TAT’s promotional campaign this year still focuses on overseas roadshows and targets the number of foreign tourists at 15 million people in 2010.

About 100,000 of supporters of ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra gathered on Rajdamnoen Avenue on Sunday with an aim to topple the government.

They intensified their campaign without violence by collecting their blood to pour at Government House, the Democrat party headquarters and the house of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva but failed to force him to dissolve the House and to call snap election.

— TNA 2010-03-18

[Thaisambo]

@Skalman wrote:

Är inte 200 poliser lite i underkant för en stad av Bangkoks storlek ?

Det är säkert inte hela Bangkoks polisiära kapacitet, utan den insatsstyrka som polisledningen bedömt som tillräcklig för att hålla ordning på demonstranterna!

Och de är ju inte så många demonstranter vad jag förstått och demonstrationen har inte visat några direkta våldstendenser utan går lugnt och fredligt till.

[Rosarin]

Hej!

Här är fredagens nyheter:

Anti-govt Reds reject offer of talks with Thai premier

BANGKOK (AFP) — Anti-government protesters on Friday rejected a conditional offer of talks by Thailand’s premier, saying they would not give up their struggle until they had toppled his administration.

The “Red Shirts” rallied for a sixth day in support of deposed Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra with leaders of the dwindling Bangkok protest vowing there would be no negotiations until the dissolution of the lower house.

“I am willing to talk but it should not be under this climate of intimidation,” Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said in an interview on an army-run national television channel.

But leaders of the largely rural-based Red Shirts said they would hound Abhisit until he bows to their demands, beseeching supporters at the rally to remain and calling for a class war.

“The Red Shirts are not refusing to negotiate but the prime minister has to dissolve the house first and all parties have to sign a pact saying they will respect the result of elections so the country can move ahead,” Red Shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan told the crowd.

Abhisit said he had not been able to return home to see his family since the rally began, as he and other members of his army-backed government have been holed up at a military barracks over security fears.

The protesters picketed the army base on Monday and on Wednesday they threw bags of their own blood at the walls of his family home after staging the same stunt at his office gates a day earlier.

Police said about 18,000 red-clad protesters remained on Thursday during the rally’s evening peak, less than a fifth of the number who turned out nearly a week ago when the group swept into the capital to call for snap elections.

Bangkok and surrounding provinces remain under a strict security clampdown for the so-far peaceful rally, with a 50,000-strong force of soldiers and police on the streets.

Protest reinforcements are expected to travel into Bangkok on Saturday to join a convoy around the capital in a bid to garner more support from city residents and spread their anti-elitist message.

A military official said up to 30,000 more Red Shirts were expected to arrive and police have said they have prepared for the predicted traffic chaos.

The protesters, whose numbers reached more than 100,000 when the rally began on Sunday, say Abhisit’s government is illegitimate because it came to power with army backing via a December 2008 parliamentary vote, after a controversial court ruling removed Thaksin’s allies.

The next polls must be held by December 2011.

The Reds say they are fighting Thailand’s privileged elites in bureaucratic, military and palace circles, whom they accuse of ousting elected governments.

Twice-elected Thaksin, who was deposed in a coup in 2006, has been egging on his supporters via videolink and online postings from exile, as he avoids a two-year jail term for corruption at home.

Amid rumours that he has been forced out of his main base in Dubai, Thaksin said on Friday on Twitter that he had returned there following a trip to the Balkan state of Montenegro, as he encouraged the Reds to press on.

Since Thaksin’s ousting, Thailand has been rocked by protests of both his supporters and opponents that have sometimes turned violent.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-19
Published with written approval from AFP.

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SATURDAY RALLY
Red-shirt marching routes detailed
By The Nation

BANGKOK: — The red-shirt movement Friday announced the 20 routes it would march its protesters on Saturday to “thank Bangkokians” for their support.

The names of 20 routes where the proetstors would march on Saturday were revealed by Aree Krainara, the head of the red-shirt security guards.

The march would begin at the Pan Fah Bridge at 10 am. The procession could be as long as 80 kilometres, said Weng Tojirakarn, a red-shirt leader

According to Aree, the procession would also be joined with 2,000 motorcycles.

The procession would move to Petchaburi road until Asok intersection then turn left on to Ratchadapisek road along to the Fortune Tower.

Then the protestors will move to Ladprao and continue to Bangkapi until Lamsalee intersection and will proceed to Ramkamhaeng road, then move forward to Klong Tan Intersection, to Phra Kanong Intersection, and turn right to Rama IV road.

Then, the protesters would proceed to Silom, Yaowaraj and back to their base at Phan Fah bridge in the evening.

Jatuporn Promphan, a red-shirt leader, said the march would be held to thank Bangkokians for their support for the red-shirt movement.

— The Nation 2010-03-19

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Jatuporn offers talk with PM

BANGKOK: — Jatuporn Promphan, a red-shirt leader, Friday apparently softened his stand and told the prime minister to schedule a day for negotiation with the red-shirt leaders.

Jatuporn said the red-shirt leaders were willing to hold a peace talk with Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva that on ground that House dissolution must be included as a condition for ending the on-going conflicts.

He said all sides must ratify a pact that they would accept the results of the next election without holding more protests.

Jatuporn said the red-shirt movement planned a march on Saturday to thank Bangkokians, not to try to cause trouble to them.

— The Nation 2010-03-19

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Thaksin says he is now in Dubai

DUBAI: — Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra announced Friday he is now in Dubai.

Posting message on his Twitter page ThaksinLive four hours ago, Thaksin said he would like to send his best wish to his supporters from Dubai.

The Thai Foreign Ministry earlier claimed that the United Arab Emirates had banned Thaksin from entering the Arab kingdom.

“Hello, I would like to send my best wishes from Dubai. I hope democracy and justice will return to the Thai society so that the country will have peace and all Thais can smile to one another,” Thaksin posted the message.

— The Nation 2010-03-19

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Red Rally: Streets to Avoid This Weekend

BANGKOK: — The reds-shirt protesters will once again take to Bangkok streets in an efforts to draw Bangkokians’ attention to their cause. They have revealed they will be marching on various main roads and bridges in Bangkok, starting from 10 a.m. on Saturday, March 20.

These streets include:

Yommarat road
Petchaburi road
Ratchadapisek road
Ladprao road
Bangkapi road
Ramkamheng road
Rama 4 road
Silom road
Yaowarat (China Town) road

The protesters will be moving to Yommarat Intersection then march towards New Petchaburi road and then onto Asoke Intersection.

From there, the protesters will march to Ratchadapisek road, passing Robinson Ratchada, then turn right at Ladprao road.

The red-procession will then make their way pass Bangkapi Intersection and turn right again at Lum Salee Intersection before heading to Ramkamhang road.

From Ramkamhang road, the protesters will be making their way to Rama 9 road and into Klongtan via Phra Kanhong road.

From there the protesters will make their way back to Rama 4 road, through to Silom, passing Twenty Two roundabout. Lastly, the protesters will head to Pahurat area and return to Pan Fah Bridge, the main rally site.

The red-shirt procession will be protected by motorcycles, both in front and at the back of the procession.

— Tan Network 2010-03-19

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MCOT: Army 2nd Cavalry Division at Sanampao steps up nighttime security after gasoline firebomb attack; Jatuporn denies Red Shirt involvement

MCOT: Red Shirt plans motorcades from Phan Fah through Phetchaburi, Ratchada, Lad Prao, Rama 4, Yaowaraj, Charoenkrung, starting at 10am Sat
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Red-shirt Leader Pledges Year-Long Rally

BANGKOK: — Red-shirt protesters will tomorrow move their protests to five areas in Bangkok to seek city residents’ participation in their anti-government activities.

A protest leader says the rally could drag on for a year until the government dissolves the House.

Core leader of the Democratic Alliance Against Dictatorship, or DAAD, Jatuporn Prompan said his group’s mobile protests tomorrow aim to convince people living in Bangkok to join its anti-government activities and the trip will start at 10 a.m.

Other DAAD core leaders today traveled around Bangkok, asking city residents to join its rally. The group planned to travel to five areas, namely Petchaburi Road, Rama IV Road,Yaowaraj, Silom and Bang Kapi.

Jatuporn insisted the DAAD is ready to hold a year-long demonstration if the government would still ignore its demand for a House dissolution and he urged the prime minister to listen to the group to make way for negotiations.

Jatuporn said if the premier dissolves the House, government coalition parties must promise they will accept the election outcome whatever it will be and he warned if the premier does not bow to the DAAD’s demand and there is a chaos, the people will come out against the ruling Democrats.

Commenting on the proposed joint parliamentary meeting on political crisis , Jatuporn said he agreed to the idea but urged the prime minister to show his sincerity in seeking a way out.

He also accused Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban of engineering a plot to stage chaos and put the blame on red-shirt protesters.

Jatuporn also claimed he has been informed by an Army officer that the seized parts of M-79 grenade launchers and M-16 rifles at private factories were produced to orders from Thai state agencies for sales to minority groups in Burma, so the prime minister and the military should give explanation on the matter.

Meanwhile, the atmosphere at the red-shirt rally at Panfa Lilas Bridge this morning was rather quiet with a number of protesters gathering to hear their leaders’ speeches.

The decline in the number of protesters also allowed more traffic lanes around the rally site to reopen.

At the same time, Sakrapee Prommachat, the man who was dressed as a Brahmin priest to perform the red-shirt blood pouring ritual, presented evidence on his ordination to counter the allegation by Phra Khru Whama Dhepmuni, the Brahmin priest chief at the Devasathan Brahmin Temple in Bangkok.

Sakrapee insisted his father Jaeng Prommachat was appointed a Brahmin priest to perform Brahmin ceremonies for the royal household. He will also file charges against Phra Khru Whama Dhepmuni for defaming him.

— Tan Network 2010-03-19
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Bangkok Post: Red reinforcements head to Bangkok

THE NATION: Reds will parade frm Yomrat to Petburi, Asoke ,Ratchda, Ladprao ,Lamsali,
Ram,Rama9, Klongtan, Prahanong, Rama4, Silom, Yawrat&back 2 Rajdamnoen
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Seh Daeng seeks bail for his close aide

BANGKOK (NNT) — Major General Khattiya Sawasdipol, also known as ‘Seh Daeng,’ is seeking bail for his close aide Pornwat Thongsomboon who is alleged of planning violent incidents in Bangkok.

On Friday, Major General Khattiya with his lawyers traveled to the Criminal Court to request for a temporary release of Mr Pornwat. 400,000-THB cash is prepared for the bail; however, the court is considering whether to approve the request or not.

The army specialist claimed that his close aide was innocent. He said all the clips with faces and voices of Mr Pornwat shown in websites were purely fabricated.

Mr Pornwat is charged for breaching the Criminal Code by feeding information about grenade blasts and social turmoil in Bangkok through computer networks as well as carrying weapons in public places.

— NNT 2010-03-19
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Bangkok Post: Phayao reds ready for Sat rally

Thaivisa: 80 km long caravan with 20,000 cars will go around BKK on Sat, red shirts leader Weng said, boasting the world’s longest protest caravan

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TAN Network: INN: Suthep threatens arrest if protesters block city streets tomorrow
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Noppadol says Thaksin will reach Dubai Friday evening

BANGKOK: — Although former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra greeted his fans from “Dubai”, his legal advisor Noppadol Pattama said Thaksin would reach the United Arab Emirates Friday evening.

Apparently unaware that Thaksin posted a message on Twitter page greeting his fans from Dubai, Noppadol said Thaksin and was on his way to the Arab kingdom and would reach Dubai in the evening.

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Police launch manhunt for Molotov-cocktail taxi driver

BANGKOK: — The Metropolitan Police Friday launched a manhunt for a taxi drive who hurled a Molotov cocktail at a tank parked inside the compound of 2nd Cavalry near the Victory Monument.

Pol Maj Gen Anan Srihiran, deputy metropolitan police chief, said police are checking for more information to try to locate the taxi driver.

He said the attack late Thursday night did not cause any damage.

— The Nation 2010-03-19
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MCOT: Police advise commuters to use BTS and MRT to avold Red Shirt weekend caravan in Bangkok, expect critical traffic confusion for 5-6 hours

THE NATION: Just finished news meet. Main topic is we expected the rally 2b re-inforced by provincial arrivals today,tomorrw. But not by much.

Thaivisa: SET index closed at 774.59, up 15.57

THE NATION: We are preparing a graphic that u can use EVERY TIME as a guide to count protesters on Rajdamnoen. Very scientific, i can tell u.

TAN Network: SET ignores red-mass, closes +15.57 points at 774.59. Volume at Bt33.99 billion.
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Pheu Thai Denies Hiring Protesters

BANGKOK: — In response to an allegation made by the deputy prime minister in charge of security affairs, the Pheu Thai Party spokesman has denied that some party members were hired to mobilise people to join the red-shirt rally.

Spokesman of opposition Pheu Thai Party, Prompong Nopparit, responded to the statement by Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, in which he claimed Pheu Thai MPs in northeastern provinces were paid 15 million baht each to mobilize people to join the anti-government protests.

Prompong denied such a scandal existed in his party and called on Suthep to show evidence to back up his claim. He added that legal action will be immediately taken against party members if they were found to have accepted such payment.

The Pheu Thai spokesman went on to say that he believed Suthep’s claim aimed to discredit and slander the Pheu Thai Party.

As for some Pheu Thai MPs who took to the red-shirt stage, Prompong said the party has not supported the action but all MPs have the right to express their opinions.

Prompong also called on the prime minister to dissolve the House as demanded by the red-shirt protesters, saying he is no longer fit to stay in office.

— Tan Network 2010-03-19
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THE NATION: Personally, I don’t like the idea of reds moving around town, where they will face both sympathizers and haters.

Bangkok Post: Monks to join red-shirt rally
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Medical teams prepare for UDD mass rally tomorrow

BANGKOK (NNT) — The Ministry of Public Health called a meeting among related hospital units for the upcoming mass rally, scheduled to take place tomorrow.

MOPH Minister, Jurin Laksanawisit, said the medical implementation teams from private hospitals and hospitals under MOPH’s supervision had attended a rehearsal in preparation for providing prompt service for aggrieved protesters of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD).

The protesters were warned of the health dangers posed by collecting and throwing excrement. Mr Jurin added the throwing of dirt at the Prime Minister’s house was highly inappropriate and not politically creative.

The MOPH Minister has instructed local hospitals along the rally route to prepare sufficient antiseptic to deal with any emergencies.

— NNT 2010-03-19
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US EMBASSY BANGKOK

QUOTE
March 19, 2010

This warden message alerts U.S. citizens traveling to and residing in
Thailand that it is anticipated that the United Front for Democracy
Against Dictatorship (aka UDD or “red-shirts”) will embark on a
procession throughout Bangkok tomorrow March 20, 2010 with the intention
of disrupting traffic throughout the city. While it is expected that
this procession will be carried out peacefully, the potential for
violence and confrontations with security elements remains.

The UDD is expected to depart from their staging grounds in the Dusit
district at approximately 10:00 a.m. and proceed towards Petchaburi
Road. From there, the planned procession route is as follows:

-Petchaburi Road to the Asoke junction
-Asoke junction to Ratchadapisek Road
-Ratchadapisek Road to Lad Prao Road
-Lad Prao Road to Ramkamheng Road
-Ramkamheng Road to Kruay Namthai Road
-Kruay Namthai Road to Yaowaraj Road (Chinatown)
-Yaowaraj Road to Rama IV Road
-Rama IV Road to Silom Road
-Silom Road back to Phan Fa Lilas bridge en route to the Sanam Luang
staging grounds

We wish to remind American citizens that even demonstrations intended to
be peaceful can turn confrontational and possibly escalate into
violence. American citizens are therefore urged to avoid the areas of
demonstrations and to exercise caution if within the vicinity of any
demonstrations.

U.S. citizens living and traveling abroad should regularly monitor the
U.S. Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs website
http://www.travel.state.gov/ where the current Worldwide Caution,
Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and Country Specific Information can be
found. The U.S. Embassy also encourages U.S. citizens to review “A
Safe Trip Abroad”
http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/safety/safety_1747.html , which
includes valuable security information for those both living and
traveling abroad. In addition to information on the Internet, travelers
may obtain up-to-date information on security conditions by calling
1-888-407-4747 toll-free in the United States and Canada, or outside the
U.S. and Canada on a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444.

U.S. citizens traveling or residing in Thailand are encouraged to
register https://travelregistration.state.gov/ibrs with the
Department of State or the U.S. Embassy. The American Citizen Services
section of the U.S. Embassy Bangkok http://bangkok.usembassy.gov/ is
located at 95 Wireless Road, Bangkok 10330, Thailand. The American
Citizen Services Unit of the U.S. Embassy can be reached by calling
66-2-205-4049 and by e-mail at acsbkk@state.gov. The emergency
after-hours telephone number is 66-2-205-4000.

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Member report: Leaders concerned about attacks from hi-rise. Army is bringing in more troops, razor wire and heavy duty barricades. concerned will provoke an incident so can immediately apply state of emergency
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Red Shirt caravan set to weave through key Bangkok traffic routes

BANGKOK (TNA) — A convoy of vehicles carrying red-clad anti-government demonstrators led by the United Front for Democracy (UDD) is set to march through the Thai capital’s key streets Saturday to roust out support from Bangkok residents and pressure the government to dissolve parliament, according to the Red Shirt movement’s security guard chief.

Aree Krainara said the red convoy would begin moving from Phan Fah Bridge at 10am and then roll through New Phetchaburi Road to the Asoke intersection and Ratchadapisek Road.

They will travel along Rama 9 Road before entering the capital’s key business area of Silom and Rama IV and head to Yommarat and then back to Phan Fah Bridge.

Pol Lt-Gen Santan Chayanont, chief of Bangkok’s Metropolitan Police Bureau, met with other police officers in preparation for responding to the mass caravan.

Afterward he confirmed the route the UDD core leaders and their supporters will travel in caravan.

Police will prevent a possible clash between protesters, local residents and others along the route and will direct traffic to facilitate motorists.

Gen Santan said that a ‘Molotov cocktail’ thrown from a taxi at the Second Cavalry Division at Bangkok’s Sanam Pao on Thursday night was intended to cause a disturbance or to play a prank to discredit the army.

No one was injured and nothing was damaged as the energy drink bottle filled with kerosene hit an area where a Army tank was displayed in front of the division headquarters. Security has been stepped up with the installation of a spotlight Friday.

The attacker was unlikely to have been in the group who fired M79 grenades at the First Infantry Regiment earlier this week, injuring two soldiers, Gen Santan said.

Core UDD leader Jatuporn Prompan denied any Red Shirt involvement in the incident.

About 100,000 Red Shirt protesters started gathering on Rajdamnoen Avenue on Sunday, demanding that Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to dissolve the Parliament and call a new election.

The protesters, however, had dwindled in number over the past few days but vowed to continue their anti-government campaign as more are coming from provinces this weekend.

The National Human Rights commission helped act as a broker between the government and the UDD leaders to try to bring the two parties to negotiating table.

The Red Shirt leaders however insisted that Mr Abhisit must accept the UDD’s demand to dissolve the House before any talks could happen.

Ousted former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra poured scorn on the NHRC’s attempt, accusing it of not being impartial.(TNA)

— TNA 2010-03-19
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THE NATION: New routes have been added to reds protest: Pokklao Bridge, BanKaek intersec, Wongwien Yai, Taksin, Tha Pra, Jaran intersec, Pin Klao Bridge. It seems they forget the thonburi side in the initial plan.

THE NATION: Bkk governor Sukhumphan to Bangkokians: “Please stay home if you don’t have important businesses to do outside”.
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Govt expects traffic snarls Saturday
By The Nation

BANGKOK: — As the red shirts are poised Saturday to march with a caravan of thousands of cars and motorcycles around Bangkok, the Peace-keeping Operations Command expects heavier-than-usual road snarls despite measures to minimise traffic woes, government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said Friday.

“The authorities are bracing for traffic woes after receiving the march schedule and routes,” he said.

Panitan said he detected a rotation of the red shirts on Thursday’s night with fresh protesters from upcountry arriving to take part in the march.

The crowds are expected to surge today but not as high as the peak level achieved on Sunday, he said.

In regard to attempts to stir up trouble, there were two violent incidents reported on Thursday’s night, he said.

The first incident involved two separate attacks at two private homes in Soi Thong Lor. Unidentified gunmen used assualt rifles to splay bullets at the homes. No damage or casualties reported.

In the second incident, unidentified men riding a taxi threw a kerosene-filled bottle at the entrance of the 2nd Cavalry Division at Sanam Pao.

Police have detained a taxi driver on suspicion of involving in the second incident. Based on prilimary evidence, the first incidemt might not be politically motivated but a warning by underground money lenders.

The government spokesman said the prospects for talks to resolve the political differences will hinge on the rally organisers and not the government.

The red shirts include several factions, each of which has a number of leaders, he said, adding that the government is always ready for negotiations as soon as the red shirts could form their own consensus.

He also stated that the red shirts might need time to find a proper channel for negotiations since their patron Thaksin Shinawatra appeared to have opposed any talks done through the National Human Rights Commission.

— The Nation 2010-03-19
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SATURDAY RALLY
Don’t leave home: Governor warns
By The Nation

BANGKOK: — Bangkok Governor MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra has advised city residents to stay at home Saturday as red-shirt demonstrators are to march through the capital.

The red shirts plan to go along various roads including Silom, Ratchadaphisek and Rama IV roads marking a distance of over 80 kilometres.

“If you don’t have to run any errand outside, please stay home,” Sukhumbhand said Friday.

He said more than 200 city policemen would be mobilised today to help facilitate traffic in the capital.

Metropolitan Police Bureau spokesman Maj General Piya Uthayo said security would be beefed up to boost the safety of demonstrators and general people.

“Checkpoints will be strictly manned and more patrols will be conducted on foot,” he said.

Piya was speaking after senior police officers yesterday met to discuss on how to ensure public order during the red-shirt rally.

— The Nation 2010-03-19

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The Nation: “The one we love who was in Montenegro has landed safely in Dubai”, Noppadol said.

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[Rosarin]

NATION: Thaksin: “My heart is vacant, waiting for you red brothers to be in it”, he said.

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Nation: Noppadol is speaking in a boring monotone that could end this rally in 24 hrs. [19:59]

Nation: Noppadol said Abhisit will fight the assets ruling “domestically” and “internationally”. [20:10]

Nation: Our political editor has come back from the rally site. “Atmosphere’s lively”, she said. “It seems there are a lot of city people too”.
“pro-democracy” academics are being introduced on red stage. [20:36]

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Nation: Veera said donations are flooding in for red rally, with a lot coming from Bangkok reds.

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Nation: Thaksin’s phoning in. He stands in front of a white wall. Seems a new background.

“I’m getting older and fatter. But my mind is fresher coz seeing you gathering like this is great.” “Tomorrow I believe there will be more.”

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Nation: Our reporters who monitored his Dubai phone-ins in the past said today’s background is never seen before.

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The Nation: Thaksin said this government is the military’s pussy cat.

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Nation: Thaksin acknwledged that Bangkokians don’t like the term “Prai”, “So, let’s just say ordinary citizens then”.
He slammed local media and praised foreign media, “which have begun to understand what u r fighting for”.
Here’s come Blackberry advice again. “If you can’t access People Station, please use this thing called Blackberry” [20,000 Baht++ cost to purchase, edit note]

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Nation: Thaksin: “We are adjusting the movement. You don’t have to wear red to join. We are creating a national solidarity movement”.

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Nation: He’s quoting Einstein again. “World is bad coz good people choose not to act against bad things.” Now he slams economic system that allows big fish to eat small fish. “Big fish getting bigger and bigger”.. Yes, he did say that. I didn’t make it up.

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He said those who don’t join reds are “those who lack vision”. “They will get smaller&smaller. Take them in.”
“I can heal it (the red-yellow divide” …yes, he did say that.

NOTE:
We will have a summary of the rest of Thaksin’s phone-in speech by tomorrow morning BKK time.

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THE NATION: He’s quoting Einstein again. “World is bad coz good people choose not to act against bad things.”

Now he slams economic system that allows big fish to eat small fish. “Big fish getting bigger and bigger”.

He said those who don’t join reds are “those who lack vision”. “They will get smaller&smaller. Take them in.”

“I can heal it (the red-yellow divide” …yes, he did say that.

THE NATION: Now he slams economic system that allows big fish to eat small fish. “Big fish getting bigger and bigger”
Big fish getting bigger? Thaksin himself is a whale!
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THE NATION: He has finished the talk. Biggest news is he didn’t say where he is.

THE NATION: Considering the Dubai debate was such a focus of attention, shouldn’t he have said something about it?

THE NATION: Abhisit coming soon on Channel 9.
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TAN Network: Reds to expand march to Thonburi, including Prapoklao Bridge, Wong Wien Yai, Taksin, and Charansanitwong areas

TAN Network: National Peacekeeping Command estimates tomorrow’s red shirt march at 30,000 people
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Red March Will Affect More Roads…

BANGKOK: — The red-shirt leaders have just announced that their Saturday march will cover more roads.

Now the planned route for the red march will be Yommaraj Intersection, Petchaburi Road, Asoke Intersection, Ratchadaphisek Road, Ratchadaphisek – Lad Phrao
Intersection, Lad Phrao Road, Bang Kapi Intersection, Lamsalee Intersection, Ramkhamhaeng Road, Klong Tan Intersection, Phra Khanong Intersection, Rama IV
Road, Silom Road, Charoenkrung Road, Yaowaraj Road, Pokklao Bridge, Ban Kaek Intersection, Wong Wian Yai, Phra Chao Tak Road, Mahaisawan Intersection,
Ratchadaphisek – Tha Phra Intersection, Charan Sanitwong Road, 35 Bowl Intersection, Pinklao Bridge, Rajdamnoen Avenue, and Phan Fa Bridge.

— The Nation 2010-03-19
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THE NATION: Abhisit said the rights commission approached the red shirt leaders before coming to government.

abhisit on negotiation: “It must benefit majority. If the demand is for thaksin to get money back, then that’s not possible.”

Abhisit’s best quote seems to be: “If money is the measure, Thaksin is many times more “ammat” than me.”

THE NATION: Goodnight and good dream everyone. We all need to recharge for tomorrow. See ya.

[jumba]

Om ni inte redan hittat hit:

http://www.redshirttv.com/

Vi har njutit många stunder kring detta under senaste veckan.

[Rosarin]

Hej och God morgon!

Vaknade idag av att rödskjortorna vrålade och sjöng på gatan där vi bor.
Det var bilkö och alla bilar stod stilla.
Rödskjortorna satt på flaket på en pick-up och vrålade “Red, red, red!”, Red, red red!” samtidigt som de slamrade på nåt som lät som en plåtburk eller ett plåtlock av något slag.
Fick lite “fotbolls-match-känsla” av det rytmiska vrålandet. Det såg allmänt glada ut.

Igår berättade en taxichaufför att han önskade att Abhisit skulle hamna i en olycka och att Thaksin skulle komma hem.
Han sa “Thaksin…good, good. Thaksin have money. Good.”
Dotterns pappa var och klippte håret i Ekkamai häromdagen och plötsligt visade frisören stolt upp sin röda skjorta. Hon skulle åka ner till rödskjortorna på kvällen och hon sa:
“It will be fun. Like a party. Not dangerous. Thaksin is good. Everyone can join party.”

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Nu nyheter från lördagen 20 mars i Bkk:

Both sides dig heels in on talks
By THE NATION

BANGKOK: — The chance of peace talks between the government and the red shirts hung in the balance yesterday, with both sides remaining firm about their conditions for negotiations.

The National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), meanwhile, remained determined to broker talks even after fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra on Thursday had dismissed the independent organisation as lacking neutrality.

“I am willing to talk, but it should not be in this climate of intimidation,” Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said in an interview.

The PM said he did not think the House dissolution requested by the protesting red shirts would ensure an end to the political conflict.

“The talks should focus on the national interest. I have never ruled out negotiations,” he said.

Abhisit also said that while the red-shirt leaders said they were ready to talk to him, Thaksin had rejected the NHRC’s offer to act as “the link” between the two sides.

“I am waiting to see if the leaders or Thaksin have the final say in this matter,” he said.

In his interview with TV Channel 9 last night, the prime minister said there were several demands from the Thaksin camp. For example, Thaksin’s legal adviser Noppadon Pattama said he wanted an amnesty for the former premier.

“I have no duty to negotiate about personal interests. If the talk is about exchanging benefits, I won’t get involved,” Abhisit said.

Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan yesterday said the protesters were willing to hold talks with the government under the condition that the House must be dissolved.

He said all sides must also agree that they would accept the results of the next election without holding further protests.

“The red shirts are not refusing to negotiate, but the prime minister has to dissolve the House first and all parties have to sign a pact saying they will respect the result of elections so the country can move ahead,” Jatuporn said.

A red-shirt source said Thaksin wanted the anti-government rally to continue in order to increase pressure on the government.

“The red shirts are now getting the upper hand, as our peaceful rally is proving effective. But if the rally continues as suggested by Thaksin, without allowing talks with the government, which is being called for by society, the red shirts may end up defeated.

The masses may turn back to supporting the government,” the source said.

NHRC president Amara Pongsapit said the agency was acting as a link between the feuding sides in order to ensure a peaceful solution to the conflict.

“We want to make sure there will be no violence during the rally,” she said.

Taejing Siripanit, an NHRC member, said the commission could not stay idle when there was the chance the political confrontation could escalate into armed struggle.

“If that turns out to be the case, the losers are the country,” he said.

Another NHRC member, Chuchai Supawong, called on Thaksin to allow the negotiation process to begin.

“I urge Thaksin to stop the distortion and trying to end the talks process. That’s tantamount to removing the bridge to peace,” he said.

— The Nation 2010-03-20
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More UDD protesters approaching Bangkok for Saturday rally

BANGKOK (NNT) – Supporters of the anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) from up-country are reported en route to the capital city of Bangkok to join the major rally on 20 March.

The UDD supporters guadually converged at Phan Fah bridge, the main stage for the rally, on Ratchadamnoen Klang Road on their seventh rally day to pressure the Democrat-led administration to step down and call for an election.

The UDD mass rally since 12 March has been proceeding peacefully amid heightened security at risk areas around the capital.

Puea Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan has announced that the group will stage a major mass demonstration in Bangkok this weekend to demand the House dissolution while another UDD core figure Nattawut Saikua reaffirmed that the group will neither use violence nor trespass upon any establishements during the rallies.

According to the group’s plan, the UDD supporters will move together in one procession, starting at 10.00 am on Saturday from Yommarat Bridge through different routes around the capital and return to Phan Fah Bridge on 18.00 hrs.

— NNT 2010-03-20
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Red Rally: Streets to Avoid This Weekend

The reds-shirt protesters will once again take to Bangkok streets in an efforts to draw Bangkokians’ attention to their cause.

They have revealed they will be marching on various main roads and bridges in Bangkok, starting from 10 a.m. on Saturday, March 20.

These streets include
Yommarat road
Petchaburi road
Ratchadapisek road
Ladprao road
Bangkapi road
Ramkamheng road
Rama 4 road
Silom road
Yaowarat (China Town) road

The protesters will be moving to Yommarat Intersection then march towards New Petchaburi road and then onto Asoke Intersection.

From there, the protesters will march to Ratchadapisek road, passing Robinson Ratchada, then turn right at Ladprao road.

The red-procession will then make their way pass Bangkapi Intersection and turn right again at Lum Salee Intersection before heading to Ramkamhang road.

From Ramkamhang road, the protesters will be making their way to Rama 9 road and onto Klongtan via Phra Kanhong road.

From there the protesters will make their way back to Rama 4 road, through to Silom, then turn right onto Charoenkrung road. Lastly, the protesters will head to Pahurat area and return to Pan Fah Bridge, the main rally site.

The red-shirt procession will be protected by motorcycles, both in front and at the back of the procession.

— Tan Network 2010-03-20
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THE NATION

Red-shirts march in Bangkok A: Yommaraj,Petchaburi,Asoke-Ratchadaphisek-Lad Phrao,Lad Phrao Rd,Bang Kapi,Lamsalee,Ramkhamhaeng,KlongTan

Red-shirts march in Bangkok B: Phra Khanong, RamaIV, Silom,Charoenkrung,Yaowaraj,Pokklao Bridge,Ban Kaek,WongWianYai,Phra Chao Tak

Red-shirts march in Bangkok C: Mahaisawan,Tha Phra, Charan Sanitwong, 35 Bowl Intersection, Pinklao Bridge, Rajdamnoen,Phan Fa Bridge
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BANGKOK: — Fearing the urban middle-class Bangkokians would either join the red shirts today or confront them, Bangkok Governor MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra has advised people to stay at home while the demonstrators march through the capital.

“If you don’t have to run any errands outside, please stay home,” Sukhumbhand said yesterday.

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, in his video call to the protesters yesterday, called on Bangkokians to join the red shirts in fighting for democracy and justice for the future of the country.

“I apologise to the people of Bangkok for the traffic congestion but it would never ease until the red shirts win and I will return to solve the problem with sufficient subways and trains,” he said.

The red-shirted protesters will today march across the capital to beg for understanding and support from the urban middle class who they hope would take their side in the class war against the so-called “aristocrat-controlled government”.

The rally would bring on the streets some 20,000 vehicles and hundreds of thousands of walking protesters from all over the country. It would start from Phan Fa Bridge on Rajdamnoen Avenue at 10am.

From the bridge, where the main rally stage is located, the procession would move to Phetchaburi and turn left at Asoke intersection to Ratchadaphisek Road, Lat Phrao, Bang Kapi, Lamsalee, Ramkhamhaeng, Klong Tan, Phra Khanong, Rama IV, Silom, Yaowarat before crossing the Chao Phya River to Wongwian Yai, Charan Sanitwong and back to Rajdamnoen Avenue.

The route covers some 100 kilometres across Bangkok, red-shirt leader Dr Weng Tojirakarn said.

Another leader, Natthawut Saikua, said the protesters would distribute leaflets during the rally to make a plea for understanding from Bangkokians and invite them to join the movement.

“Please come to join, whatever colour you wear, to liberate Thailand from a class society,” he said.

Governor Sukhumbhand said more than 200 city policemen would be mobilised today to help direct traffic in the capital.

Metropolitan Police Bureau spokesman Maj-General Piya Uthayo said security would be beefed up for the safety of the demonstrators and general people.

“Checkpoints will be strictly manned and more patrols will be conducted on foot,” he said.

Piya was speaking after senior police officers yesterday met to discuss on how to ensure public order during the red-shirt rally.

Deputy Metropolitan Police Commissioner Maj-General Panu Kerdlarpphol, who oversees traffic affairs, said police would inform motorists to avoid going to roads affected by the march.

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said he would not allow the rally go closer than 2 kilometres to Siriraj Hospital where His Majesty the King is being treated.

The authorities would arrest any protesters who block any roads in Bangkok, he said. “If we cannot arrest immediately, we will take a picture first and arrest later,” he said.

Former prime minister Chavalit Yongchaiyudh would visit the protesters today to give them moral support. He would also bring some medicines for the protesters who might get sick from the lengthy demonstration, according to his close aide.

Many high-profile politicians and former members of the defunct Thai Rak Thai and People Power parties who were banned from politics yesterday took the stage at Rajdamnoen Avenue to show their support for the protest.

Former justice minister Phongthep Thepkanchana and former foreign minister Noppadon Pattama were among the banned politicians who took the stage last night.

— The Nation 2010-03-20
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THE NATION: MCOT:Redshirted protesters cancel the plan to move to Charan Sanitwong Rd and Pinklao bridge as the roads are close to Siriraj hospital

THE NATION: Redshirted protesters will use stickers and red flags as symbols to prevent them from the 3rd handed person while moving across BKK.

Thaivisa: Thavisa: Core redshirt leaders arriving @ protest site. The number of ppl at the rally site appears 2 have increased over nite. off duty police and some soldiers coming to volunteer 2 assist with protection duties. They r being carefully screened.
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Thaivisa: Core red-shirt leaders have arrived at the United Frot for Democracy against Dictatorship protest site at Phan Fa Bridge in cetral Bangkok in preparation for todays anti-government cavalcade.

Thousands of protesters have already boarded trucks in preparation of lavig th rally site, with the convoy length currently measuring 46km.

Red-shirt organizers have implemnted special identity measures this morning in an attempt to identify gnuine red-shirts from possible infiltrators, while dozens of off-duty police and soldiers have arrived to volunteer their services to provide security for the convoy and are being carefully screened.

— thaivisa.com 2010-03-20
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MCOT: Red Shirts cancel Charansanitwong-Phrapinklao Bridge route because it’s too close to Siriraj Hospital

Nation: Redshirted leaders urge protester to beware of fake redshirted protesters who will cause possible violence while marching throughout BKK.

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Nation: The head of the line of thousands redshirted protesters are now standing at Yommarat Rd.

Thaivisa: Motorcade started to leave rally site.
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Red shirts form procession at Yommaraj Intersection

At 9 am Saturday, red-shirt people are forming a long procession of motorcycles, bikes and vehicles for marching around Bangkok.

The procession is scheduled to move at 10 am.

The movement announce it will change its route by avoiding Rama IV Road and roads near the Siriraj Hospital.

— The Nation 2010-03-20
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Thaivisa member almeya143: The road at charan sanit wong is clear – no traffic.
At the wong vian yai round about – there are 3 police cars and around 10 bikes ..
At wong vian yai bts station – 1 pick up of red shirts – 3 ppl at that coast.
The rest all is clear at chareon krung yet.
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Leader tell red shirts not to retaliate against angry Bangkokians

BANGKOK: — A red-shirt leader announced on the Phan Fah stage Saturday morning, telling the protesters not to retaliate against Bangkokians who may express anger towards them during the march.

The leader told the protester to only say apology to the dissatisfied Bangkokians.

The leader also reminded guards that there could be infiltrators who might try to have the movement look bad by committing violence.

— The Nation 2010-03-20
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Thaivisa: Red-shirt motorcade starting to leave 46km long

MCOT: Red Shirts start forming caravan to criss-cross BKK, Chonburi protesters head to BKK to join motorcade, police facilitating traffic

TAN Network: Red-shirts begin lineup,head of the procession at Yommarat,tail at Ratchadamnoen rd.Leaders say won’t march near Siriraj Hospital

THE NATION: The Route of redshirted protesters’ today march across BKK with cover 100 km/The Nation’s graphic team/

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THE NATION: Red-shirt leader Dr Weng Tojirakarn told protesters to No mad,No violence,No reaction but Smile, give Love and Happiness while marching BKK

Rhaivisa: On motorbike racing 2 front no edge. Residents giving rousing welcome encouragment

THE NATION: 100s redshirted protesters are now at Nation Tower RT

THE NATION: Red leaders have warned protesters not to get angry and be very friendly. (Ummmm….should they warn Bangkokians instead?)

THE NATION: “Send smiles, send happiness, send understanding” is the theme of today’s parade.
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[Rosarin]

Police gears up measures for rally today, recommends public transportation

BANGKOK (NNT) — The Metropolitan Police Bureau has geared up measures to handle the mass rally of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) today.

The public is advised to use public transportation as heavy traffic congestion is anticipated during the rally.

Deputy Police Commander of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, Police Major General Panu Kerdlarppol had instructed the police bureau citywide to be on alert and prepared at all times with the UDD movement.

The police will be stationed at light signals and nearby routes with the UDD movement, which is anticipate to stretch for almost 60 kilometers long, Police Maj Gen Panu said.

The deputy police commander also advises the public to complete their errands before 09.00 hrs and closely monitor the situation. Public transportation such as busses and trains are advised to be used.

Roads that should be avoided include Petchburi Road, Ratchadapisek, Ladprao, Ramkhamhaeng, Rama 4 and Yaowarat, which are usually congested, due to operations of private companies and tutor schools for children.

At 12.00 hrs, the UDD protestors are expected to arrive in the Ladprao and Bangkapi area and arrive at Rama 4 at 14.00 hrs. The rally is expected to be completed at 17.00 hrs.

For more information about traffic conditions, the 1644 hotline can be contacted.

— NNT 2010-03-20
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THE NATION: Reds will claim Bangkokians welcome them due to some people greeting, but who know what those who caught in the traffic think

Thaivisa: no replies while on redshirt motorcade. at least 30.000 ppl. Thousands of cars, truck, motorbikes

Asianewsnetwork: BANGKOK: redshirts are massing in front of The Nation newspaper. They plan to cover some 100km of roads to reach out to city folks.

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CAPO asks UDD to lessen traffic

BANGKOK (NNT) — The Government’s Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) had asked the anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) to open certain routes to ease traffic congestion in the city.

According to Army spokesman, Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd, this will help lessen inconveniences for the public, avoid traffic conflicts, and personal confrontations that may arise from frustrated citizens.

Today, more than 30,000 UDD protestors from various provinces are expected to be in Bangkok.

The protestors will travel around the city in hopes of attracting more people to join the rally after its unsuccessful attempts to elicit a Parliament dissolution and the resignation of the Prime Minister last Saturday.

Meanwhile, Col Sansern confirmed that the situation can be under control and violence can be avoided if the UDD cooperates.

— NNT 2010-03-20
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TAN Network: Red-shirt protesters begin citywide march.Residents of Petchaburi Soi 7 verbally attacked reds b4 security officers intervened

THE NATION: Hundreds of reds on motorcycles have paid brief visit to The Nation HQ. They have left to join the city parade. The visit was noisy but there was no incident.

THE NATION: The visitors submitted a letter complaining about Nation reporting of the movement.

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[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Red-shirt protesters begin citywide march.Residents of Petchaburi Soi 7 verbally attacked reds b4 security officers intervened

THE NATION: Hundreds of reds on motorcycles have paid brief visit to The Nation HQ. They have left to join the city parade. The visit was noisy but there was no incident.

THE NATION: The visitors submitted a letter complaining about Nation reporting of the movement.
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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Unless your life depends on it, don’t go near Phetchburi Rd now. Red parade moving there; traffic must b paralysed around the area.
So many red on motorcycles today. They can’t be those from the provinces. Must b the pro-red taxi motorcyclists.
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Protesters reach New Phetchaburi

By 10:30 am Saturday, the head of the red-shirt procession reached the Pratunam Intersection.

The head of the march comprised motorcyclists.

They distributed letters to apologise to Bangkokians for causing inconvenience.

— The Nation 2010-03-20
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[Rosarin]

MCOT: Red Shirt caravan moves out to criss-cross Bangkok; leaves Yommaraj with large motorcycle escort; motor convoy expected confuse traffic all day

TAN Network: Police beef up security at Bangkok Bank headquarters and CP Tower on Silom Rd during red-shirt citywide march.

Thaivisa: the main vehicle motorcade is being preceded by thousands of motorbikes. redshirt guards helping police with traffic control but its hopeless
Shops emptying as people rush 2 look at this homogeneous redshirt motorcade
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TAN Network: Shops in Yaowarat (China Town) closed for the day during red-shirt citywide march.100s officers patrol streets.
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UDD rally on Charansanitwong, Pin Klao Bridge called off

BANGKOK (NNT) – Nattawut Saikua, a core leader of the anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) has decided to call off the UDD procession on Charansanitwong Road and Phra Pinklao Bridge to avoid possible untoward incidents.

Mr Nattawut revealed that that the mass rally on Charansanitwong Road and other risky areas has been rerouted to avoid important landmarks.

The core leader also annouced that if any red-shirts are found in these areas, they are counterfeits and officers can arrest them immediately.

The UDD has called another major protest today in the capital of Bangkok where thousands of vehicles are expected to join the anti-government parade.

The procession will start from their rally base at Phan Fah Bridge, before the mass will proceed to Petchburi Road, Ratchadapisek, Ladprao, Ramkhamhaeng, Rama 4 and Yaowarat.

The rally is expected to end by 17.00 hrs today.

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THE NATION: Pratunam, Plenchit, Chid Lom are now areas to avoid.
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Jatuporn Adamant Red-shirts Won’t March to Siriraj or Suvarnabhumi Airport

Red-shirt key leader Jatuporn Promphan reiterated that the red-shirt protesters will not march to Siriraj Hospital nor Suvarnabhumi Airport.

Jatuporn said he did not want the government or a third party to sabotage the red-shirts by assuming the identity of the red-shirts to incite chaos.

He added that the red-shirt protesters have not ruled out the possibility of opening a dialogue with the Abhisit administration.

— Tan Network 2010-03-20
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[Rosarin]

MCOT: Red Shirt caravan moves out to criss-cross Bangkok; leaves Yommaraj with large motorcycle escort; motor convoy expected confuse traffic all day

TAN Network: Police beef up security at Bangkok Bank headquarters and CP Tower on Silom Rd during red-shirt citywide march.

Thaivisa: the main vehicle motorcade is being preceded by thousands of motorbikes. redshirt guards helping police with traffic control but its hopeless
Shops emptying as people rush 2 look at this homogeneous redshirt motorcade
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TAN Network: Shops in Yaowarat (China Town) closed for the day during red-shirt citywide march.100s officers patrol streets.
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UDD rally on Charansanitwong, Pin Klao Bridge called off

BANGKOK (NNT) – Nattawut Saikua, a core leader of the anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) has decided to call off the UDD procession on Charansanitwong Road and Phra Pinklao Bridge to avoid possible untoward incidents.

Mr Nattawut revealed that that the mass rally on Charansanitwong Road and other risky areas has been rerouted to avoid important landmarks.

The core leader also annouced that if any red-shirts are found in these areas, they are counterfeits and officers can arrest them immediately.

The UDD has called another major protest today in the capital of Bangkok where thousands of vehicles are expected to join the anti-government parade.

The procession will start from their rally base at Phan Fah Bridge, before the mass will proceed to Petchburi Road, Ratchadapisek, Ladprao, Ramkhamhaeng, Rama 4 and Yaowarat.

The rally is expected to end by 17.00 hrs today.

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THE NATION: Pratunam, Plenchit, Chid Lom are now areas to avoid.
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Jatuporn Adamant Red-shirts Won’t March to Siriraj or Suvarnabhumi Airport

Red-shirt key leader Jatuporn Promphan reiterated that the red-shirt protesters will not march to Siriraj Hospital nor Suvarnabhumi Airport.

Jatuporn said he did not want the government or a third party to sabotage the red-shirts by assuming the identity of the red-shirts to incite chaos.

He added that the red-shirt protesters have not ruled out the possibility of opening a dialogue with the Abhisit administration.

— Tan Network 2010-03-20
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‘Red Shirts’ take to streets to win over Thai capital

by Thanaporn Promyamyai

BANGKOK (AFP) — Thousands of red-clad Thai protesters began to snake across Bangkok on Saturday in a festive travelling rally aimed at winning over the city’s residents to their flagging anti-government campaign.

Police said around 20,000 “Red Shirts” joined the convoy across the capital in pick-up trucks, buses, cars and on motorcycles after they rejected a conditional offer of talks by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva a day earlier.

The group planned to zig-zag along 45 kilometres (28 miles) of Bangkok’s main roads bearing flags, smiles and music, in an attempt to recuit residents to their waning rally calling for elections, now into its seventh day.

Backers of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra, the Reds — mainly from poor rural areas — say they are fighting Thailand’s elites in bureaucratic, military and palace circles, whom they accuse of ousting elected governments.

The protesters say Abhisit’s government is illegitimate because it came to power with army backing via a December 2008 parliamentary vote, after a controversial court ruling removed Thaksin’s allies.

“We will travel to find love from the people of Bangkok and to unite them with us, the poor peasants, to overthrow the elite-backed government,” protest leader Veera Musikapong told the crowds before their convoy set off.

Protest numbers peaked at more than 100,000 last Sunday and have so far been peaceful, but army spokesman Colonel Sunsern Kaewkumnerd said he worried “there could be some clashes” Saturday.

The protesters picketed an army base on Monday and on Wednesday threw bags of their blood at the walls of the prime minister’s family home after staging the same stunt at his office a day earlier.

But the premier has stood firm in his rejection of the protesters’ demand for elections, and said talks could only take place once the rally had dispersed.

Since Thaksin was ousted, Thailand has been rocked by protests by both his supporters and his opponents, many of whom are in Bangkok and accuse him of corruption and of disloyalty to the revered royal family.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-20
Published with written approval from AFP.

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[Rosarin]

MCOT: Red Shirt caravan moves out to criss-cross Bangkok; leaves Yommaraj with large motorcycle escort; motor convoy expected confuse traffic all day

TAN Network: Police beef up security at Bangkok Bank headquarters and CP Tower on Silom Rd during red-shirt citywide march.

Thaivisa: the main vehicle motorcade is being preceded by thousands of motorbikes. redshirt guards helping police with traffic control but its hopeless
Shops emptying as people rush 2 look at this homogeneous redshirt motorcade
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TAN Network: Shops in Yaowarat (China Town) closed for the day during red-shirt citywide march.100s officers patrol streets.
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UDD rally on Charansanitwong, Pin Klao Bridge called off

BANGKOK (NNT) – Nattawut Saikua, a core leader of the anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) has decided to call off the UDD procession on Charansanitwong Road and Phra Pinklao Bridge to avoid possible untoward incidents.

Mr Nattawut revealed that that the mass rally on Charansanitwong Road and other risky areas has been rerouted to avoid important landmarks.

The core leader also annouced that if any red-shirts are found in these areas, they are counterfeits and officers can arrest them immediately.

The UDD has called another major protest today in the capital of Bangkok where thousands of vehicles are expected to join the anti-government parade.

The procession will start from their rally base at Phan Fah Bridge, before the mass will proceed to Petchburi Road, Ratchadapisek, Ladprao, Ramkhamhaeng, Rama 4 and Yaowarat.

The rally is expected to end by 17.00 hrs today.

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THE NATION: Pratunam, Plenchit, Chid Lom are now areas to avoid.
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Jatuporn Adamant Red-shirts Won’t March to Siriraj or Suvarnabhumi Airport

Red-shirt key leader Jatuporn Promphan reiterated that the red-shirt protesters will not march to Siriraj Hospital nor Suvarnabhumi Airport.

Jatuporn said he did not want the government or a third party to sabotage the red-shirts by assuming the identity of the red-shirts to incite chaos.

He added that the red-shirt protesters have not ruled out the possibility of opening a dialogue with the Abhisit administration.

— Tan Network 2010-03-20
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‘Red Shirts’ take to streets to win over Thai capital

by Thanaporn Promyamyai

BANGKOK (AFP) — Thousands of red-clad Thai protesters began to snake across Bangkok on Saturday in a festive travelling rally aimed at winning over the city’s residents to their flagging anti-government campaign.

Police said around 20,000 “Red Shirts” joined the convoy across the capital in pick-up trucks, buses, cars and on motorcycles after they rejected a conditional offer of talks by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva a day earlier.

The group planned to zig-zag along 45 kilometres (28 miles) of Bangkok’s main roads bearing flags, smiles and music, in an attempt to recuit residents to their waning rally calling for elections, now into its seventh day.

Backers of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra, the Reds — mainly from poor rural areas — say they are fighting Thailand’s elites in bureaucratic, military and palace circles, whom they accuse of ousting elected governments.

The protesters say Abhisit’s government is illegitimate because it came to power with army backing via a December 2008 parliamentary vote, after a controversial court ruling removed Thaksin’s allies.

“We will travel to find love from the people of Bangkok and to unite them with us, the poor peasants, to overthrow the elite-backed government,” protest leader Veera Musikapong told the crowds before their convoy set off.

Protest numbers peaked at more than 100,000 last Sunday and have so far been peaceful, but army spokesman Colonel Sunsern Kaewkumnerd said he worried “there could be some clashes” Saturday.

The protesters picketed an army base on Monday and on Wednesday threw bags of their blood at the walls of the prime minister’s family home after staging the same stunt at his office a day earlier.

But the premier has stood firm in his rejection of the protesters’ demand for elections, and said talks could only take place once the rally had dispersed.

Since Thaksin was ousted, Thailand has been rocked by protests by both his supporters and his opponents, many of whom are in Bangkok and accuse him of corruption and of disloyalty to the revered royal family.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-20
Published with written approval from AFP.

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THE NATION: Lard Prao is always bad on Saturday even without any parade. Avoid it at all costs.

THE NATION: Abhisit said the “Class War” theme is a matter of concern, because it will deepen the conflict. “Why do we have to make people hate each other?” Abhisit said.
“Thaksin’s rich, and doesn’t have to go to jail after being sentenced to imprisonment,” Abhisit said. “Is this what we should call equality?” Abhisit said.
“The worst is the use of doctored audio clip to amplify hatred,” Abhisit said.

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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Lard Prao is always bad on Saturday even without any parade. Avoid it at all costs.

THE NATION: Abhisit said the “Class War” theme is a matter of concern, because it will deepen the conflict. “Why do we have to make people hate each other?” Abhisit said.
“Thaksin’s rich, and doesn’t have to go to jail after being sentenced to imprisonment,” Abhisit said. “Is this what we should call equality?” Abhisit said.
“The worst is the use of doctored audio clip to amplify hatred,” Abhisit said.

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THE NATION: Gold shops in yaowarat will also be closed this afternoon.

THE NATION: Numbers from tV reports: Red parade to cover some 57 kilometres. There are 1,000 motorcycles and 1,500 vehicles.

THE NATION: Protesters waving to crowd, smiling, some looking like they are in Bkk for first time. Aside from traffic chaos, it’s been peaceful.
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THE NATION: All department/super stores in Bkk open as usual. No need to warn u against going to Imperial LardPrao, though.

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THE NATION: The #redshirt procession just passed the Ratchadapisek area and has reached Ladprao 112. Motorists warned to stay away

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TAN Network: Red-shirts won’t march pass Charansanitwong or Pinklao Bridge. But will march on Sathon, Silom, Yaowarat, Klongtom and Worajak rd. Length of red-shirt procession estimated at 60-80km long.

TAN Network (TV): Thaksin is not chased by Interpol, despite earlier reports/rumors.

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Protesters’ convoy moves out on Bangkok streets; Detours Siriraj Hospital where king stays

BANGKOK: — Anti-government protesters of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) early Saturday bagan their convoy of cars, pickups and motorcycles criss cossing the Thai capital’s key streets, but adjusting plans at the last minute to avoid route near the hospital where the king is being treated.

UDD protesters have rallying in Bangkok for one week Saturday in their bid to force Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva dissolve the parliament and call for a fresh general election began rolling out from Phan Fah Bridge at 10am headed for key business areas including Phetchaburi Road, Ratchadapisek Road, Lat Phrao Road, Rama IV Road, Silom Road, Yaowarat Road and then back to their base area at Phan Fah Bridge.

Later the UDD leaders revised their plan of march to cross the Phrapokklao Bridge to Bangkok’s Thonburi side. After Yaowaraj the motorised marchers were to travel through Wongwienyai, the Charansanitwong Road and cross Phrapinklao Bridge before returning to Phan Fah Bridge, their main protest venue but changed plans at the last minute due to considerations regarding the Thonburi side across the Chao Phraya River where Siriraj Hospital is located and the revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej is receiving treatment.

The world’s longest-reigning monarch was admitted to Siriraj Hospital on last September 19 with a lung infection and fever. His condition has improved but still remain there under doctors’ close supervision.

Led by key UDD leaders, the protesters distributed leaflets saying the ‘Red Shirt people love Bangkokians’ to passersby while traffic on roads which they passed through became virtually standstill.

The UDD leaders also invited the people to join them in the demonstration which they hope to force the prime minisiter to dissolve parliament.

As their caravan snakes along Bangkok’s crowded streets, the Red Shirt protesters said earlier they will distribute heart-shaped self-adhesive stickers to Bangkokians to promote an improved understanding of the ideology and goals of the protesters who say they are carrrying out the demonstration for democracy.

The protest on Saturday was also intended as an opportunity to apologise to the Bangkok residents who may face difficulties from the demonstration, said the UDD leaders. The caravan started at 10am and was expected to tangle traffic all day.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva is scheduled to hold talks with senior security officials and members of the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order at 11th Infantry Regiment headquarters on the outskirts of Bangkok to assess the situation on Saturday’s rally.

He is expected to give interviews to the press later in the day.

On Thursday the premier said his goverment was ready to hold talks to find best solution, while the UDD leaders said they do not objection to the talks but the prime minsiter have to open mind to listen to the protesters view without preconditions and accept its demand to dissolve parliament.

— TNA 2010-03-20

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THE NATION: Bkk underground train MRT operates as usual but some stations may selectively close some entrance for security reason

THE NATION: Protesters passing Ramkamhaeng University now, heading to Klong Tan intersec.

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Red-March: Procession Reaches Rama 9 Road, Approaches Klongtan

The red-shirt procession has reached Rama 9 road and is currently approaching Klongtan area.

Red-shirt supporters on main street were seen waving at red-shirt protesters and some of them providing drinking water to the protesters.

— Tan Network 2010-03-20
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TAN Network: Reds to cross Krungthep Bridge to Krungtonburi side of Bkk,then cross Sathon Bridge to Sathon/Silom & eventually to China Town
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[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Motorists are adviced to avoid Rama IV and Sukhumvit Rd now – better take mass transit BTS & MRT

TAN Network: Red-shirt protesters expect to return to Pan Fah Bridge at 6 p.m.
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THE NATION: TV showed Seh Daeng appearing near Imperial LardPrao, looking like a celeb, smiling and letting admirers take his photos.

TNA (TV): TAN: The redshirts generates around 100 tons of trash everyday, according to Bangkok Governor. BMA officials have to clean up after them.

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Whoah! I just reached 4,000 friends/followers on my Facebook page: http://facebook.com/farang

THE NATION: Not to be left behind, Chavalit will join reds at rajadamnoen this evening. I bet he’ll call himself a “prai” soldier.

THE NATION: The head of line of redshirted protesters have already arrived Sukhumvit 71 but the tail is still at Phanfa bridge.

THE NATION: Red parade has become sprawling as expected, with front line already reaching Kluay Nam Thai, leaving behind a long, scattered trail.

TAN Network: Leading part of procession reaches Sukumvit, end still around Yommarat; passerby throws bottle at Nattawut but misses

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THE NATION: Facebook users have started sending info of outsted PM Thaksin to the Montenegro’s opp. leader N. Medokjevic to oppose the granted
citizenship

TAN Network: Leading part of procession reaches Sukumvit, end still around Yommarat; passerby throws bottle at Nattawut but misses

ASTV: Klongtan residents put up sign showing displeasure with red shirt protests
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THE NATION: JS100 radio station reports that the red parade changes their route – taking Rama IV instead of Rama III and heading to Saladaeng – the police are confused.
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[Rosarin]

ASTV: Klongtan residents put up sign showing displeasure with red shirt protests

THE NATION: JS100 radio station reports that the red parade changes their route – taking Rama IV instead of Rama III and heading to Saladaeng – the police are confused.

THE NATION: JS100 – The parade are not in fully controlled – the latest saw the red parade taking Charoen Krung Rd.

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THE NATION: Redshirts protesters cancel the plan to move to Rama III Rd. They now arrive Sala Daeng and will move to Silom and Chareon Krung Rd.

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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: The parade are not in fully controlled – the latest saw the red parade taking Charoen Krung Rd.
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Red-shirt protesters stuck in traffic on Ratchada-Lard Prao

At 2 pm Saturday, the traffic on the Ratchada-Lard Prao Road stood still, causing many red-shirt protesters to get stuck there.

Dissatisfied protesters honked the horns of their vehicles.

Many got off their vehicles to be under shades of trees on the road island and roadsides.

The area had no red-shirt leaders to control the situation as Natthawut Saikua had passed the area by about half an hour.

The gate to the Lard Prao station of the subway was closed.

— The Nation 2010-03-20
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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Some 3,000 red-shirt motorcyclists head to Silom At 2 pm Saturday, some 3,000 red-shirt motorcyclists headed to Silom Road through Rama IV Road.
They reached the Klong Toey Market at 2 pm.
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TAN Network: INN: A red shirt protester sent to hospital after fainting and falling off a motorcycle due to heat exhaustion
Current temperature in Bangkok approximately 36 degrees Celcius

THE NATION: the Redshirt mass rally across BKK will be ended within 5 pm if they decide not go to Thonburi province
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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: the Redshirt mass rally across BKK will be ended within 5 pm if they decide not go to Thonburi province

THE NATION:
Klong Tan residents protest against red shirts
Some residents of Soi Pridee 4 carried banners in protest against the red-shirt leaders when the frontline of the march reached the Klong Tan area at 2 pm.
The banners said the red-shirt protesters should have sympathy for Bangkokians.
But both sides did not quarrel or clash.
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[Rosarin]

TAN Network: Ch 11: Reporter contracts 2009 influenza while posted at the red shirt rally; Health Ministry+BMA warns public of potential outbreak

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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Metro Bus passengers can check the route at MetroCare center 02-3011818

TAN network: INN: Pattaya Superintendent instructed to request that Arisman Pongruerngrong’s bail be revoked
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TAN Network: Red shirt procession reaches Wong Wien Yai

THE NATION: Police suggest ppl working today to take expressway after work as traffic is still heavy along the red parade route.
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Jatuporn claims red-shirt march welcomed by Bangkokians

BANGKOK: — Jatuporn Promphan claimed that Bangkokians welcomed the red shirt demonstrators.

Jatuporn told People’s Channel TV whle passing through Klong Toey that the red-shirt march received warm welcome from Bangkokians throughout the way.

“I would like to respect the Bangkokians with my heart. We all must cooperate to change this country because we have been oppressed for three consecutive years,” Jatuporn said.

— The Nation 2010-03-20

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TAN Network: TNN: Some protesters return to Pan Fah as Arisman takes stage to declare success after substantial no. of Bkk residents welcome protesters

THE NATION: Over ten thousands of Redshirted protesters are heading to Thonburi area. They are now crossing the Krungthep bridge.

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Police Revoke Arisman’s Bail

PATTAYA: — The Pattaya Superintendent reveals that he has been instructed to request that Arisman Pongruerngrong’s bail be revoked.

This particular arrest warrant resulted from the red shirts’ seizure of the ASEAN Summit meeting venue in Pattaya in April last year.

Arisman was released on bail with conditions that he does not incite further violence.

— Tan Network 2010-03-20

[Rosarin]

Police Revoke Arisman’s Bail

PATTAYA: — The Pattaya Superintendent reveals that he has been instructed to request that Arisman Pongruerngrong’s bail be revoked.

This particular arrest warrant resulted from the red shirts’ seizure of the ASEAN Summit meeting venue in Pattaya in April last year.

Arisman was released on bail with conditions that he does not incite further violence.

— Tan Network 2010-03-20

[Rosarin]

THE NATION: Prime Minister Abhsit special interview on TNN @ 10pm tonight

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[Rosarin]

THE NATION: 15:55 hrs, BKK, Pratunam Red shirts parade via hundreds of pickups going through Petchburi Rd. Heavy traffic as usual.
Mixed reactions to red parade were reported. Bystanders clapped&waved in certain areas but booed or displayed scolding banners in others.

THE NATION: Matichon reported a water bottle was thrown from a building upper floor when Nattawut’s truck was passing LadPrao, almost hitting him.

TAN network: Ch 11: MRT closes some entrances to Queen Sirikit Convention Center, Klongtoey,Silom,Sam Yan, Hua Lamphong stations

MCOT: Red Shirts divide into two groups, to Wongwien Yai and Silom Road; Expect worst traffic delays until late evening

THE NATION: Foreign Ministry’s asked Thai Embassy in UAE to check if Thaksin’s really there.
If he’s confirmed to b there, new evidence of his political activities will be submitted to UAE govt, according to Matichon.

THE NATION: Pheu Thai MPs joined red-shirts campaign, demanding Govt to dissolve the House.They declared to boycott their parliamentary role:matichon

Bangkok Post: Red shirt convey reaches China town

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Thaivisa member report:

The Yommarat intersection is now clear.
Pickup trucks with redshirters are heading west, back to the staging area, and are quiet, just as any other vehicle going down Lan Luang.

I took a boat along the klong that runs parallel to Th. Petchaburi, seemed normal — I was concerned they would fill them up.

The market area adjacent to Bo Be not as busy as usual at 4pm Saturday. Maybe just a delayed start.

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[Rosarin]

Thai political deadlock after red street parade

by Thanaporn Promyamyai

BANGKOK (AFP) — Politically riven Thailand was in a stalemate Saturday as protesters, buoyed by a huge parade across the capital, refused talks with the government announced earlier by the prime minister.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said anti-government “Red Shirt” protesters had agreed to talks with a government minister, as they bolstered their week-long rally with a carnival-like convoy that police said swelled to 65,000 people.

But upon returning to their main rally site, after waving flags and honking horns in a bid to win over Bangkok residents, the mainly rural supporters of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra stood firm in their demands.

“We will talk only with Abhisit,” leader Jatuporn Prompan told the cheering crowd, reiterating their call for immediate elections.

Abhisit earlier said senators had arranged for a meeting on Monday between minister Satit Wonghnongtaey, government official Korbsak Sabhavasu and two senior Red Shirts.

“It’s difficult to say anything in advance but at least it’s good to start talks,” the prime minister told reporters, as the colourful convoy of trucks, cars and motorbikes brought traffic to a halt in parts of the city.

The protesters, largely from poor northern areas, say Abhisit’s government is illegitimate as it came to power with army backing via a December 2008 parliamentary vote after a controversial court ruling removed Thaksin’s allies.

“We will talk only with Abhisit and with the condition of house dissolution,” Nattawut Saikur told reporters after the day-long parade across the capital. He denied the Reds were “closing the door”.

In what they have increasingly dubbed a “class war”, the Reds say they are fighting Thailand’s elite in bureaucratic, military and palace circles, whom they accuse of ousting elected governments.

Their noisy convoy was designed to recruit urban support and revive the so-far peaceful rally, which had begun to wane after peaking at more than 100,000 people last weekend.

“We succeeded on our caravan today. We were warmly received and welcomed by Reds and also many people of other coloured shirts,” Nattawut said.

Abhisit, who has spent most of the rally holed up in an army barracks due to security fears, criticised the evocation of class struggle, saying it “incited social unrest”.

He said Thaksin, who was ousted in a 2006 coup, was an “obstacle to negotiation” between the government and Red Shirts.

The ex-premier, who lives in exile to avoid a jail term for corruption, spoke to supporters via videolink on Saturday night, thanking those who took part in the convoy. “I’m really proud of you. I almost cried,” he said.

“Today I want to invite everyone to join us to call for democracy. You don’t have to wear red, but just have one ideology: democracy.”

Authorities warned Bangkok residents to stay at home on Saturday and 1,000 traffic police officers were deployed along the 60 kilometre (37 mile) route.

A 50,000-strong security force has been in place in Bangkok and surrounding areas.

The protesters picketed the military base housing Abhisit on Monday and on Wednesday threw bags of their blood at the walls of his home, after a similar stunt at his office a day earlier.

On Sunday morning, artists will paint the remaining blood on a white canvas, Nattawut said.

Since Thaksin’s ouster, Thailand has been rocked by protests by both his supporters and his opponents, many of whom are

in Bangkok and accuse him of corruption and of disloyalty to the revered royal family.

— (c)Copyright AFP 2010-03-20
Published with written approval from AFP.
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[Bangkok Info]

Igår var det åter igen stora protester här i Bangkok. Ca 65 000 rödtröjor med ca 7000 fordon körde i timmar runt i huvudstaden. Kanske inte som många deltagare som man hade hoppats på men många slöt upp längs vägen för att visa sitt stöd till rödtröjorna och UDD, United Front for Democracy.

Runt 8500 poliser var utkommenderade för att bevaka paraden men protesterna gick lugnt till även om det så klart blev edel trafikstörningar. Dom rödtröjor jag såg och pratade med verkade glada och var vid gott mod.

Har lagt upp bilder på bloggen och även lite funderingar om pressfriheten i landet nu i samband med demonstrationerna.

http://blogg.bangkokinfo.se/

[Bangkok Info]

Hej Skalis,

Vi är flera personer som jobbar med bangkok info. Men en person har huvudansvaret för bloggen.
Mer info om oss kommer på sidan som lanseras snart. Den har blivit lite försenad av olika anledningar men
hoppas få upp den online nu i veckan 🙂

[Rosarin]

Japp.

De säger att det är historiskt.
Äntligen sitter de vid samma bord och pratar om landets framtid!

Men det verkar vara svårt att komma fram till något gemensamt.

försöker hänga med så gott det går.

Det står samtidigt att hundratals bangkokbor har samlats vid Siam square för att visa sitt stöd för regeringen och för att förhindra att de röda får Abhisit att lösa upp regeringen.

[Rosarin]

Abhisit-laget försöker att prata om andra saker när de nu ändå sitter ner vid samma bord men en av de röda ledarna är bara intresserad av att lösa upp regeringen. Han sa att han bara vill prata om det.

Kanske vet regeringen att de röda inte är så enade i andra sakfrågor, och att deras styrka och driv att få så många demonstranter att backa upp dem är att deras enda mål är att få regeringen upplöst.

inte vet jag.

Men som jag har skrivit i en annan tråd, efterlyser jag mer av vad de röda vill FÖRÄNDRA med sin politik till skillnad ifrån vad regeringen står för nu?

Intressant.

[Travaren]

Det som jag tycker är det intressanta i dagens samtal mellan Premiärminister Abisith och “de röda” är vad Han menar med att nya val inte skulle lösa Thailands problem.

Vad har Thailand för problem som skulle vara hotat av nya val…?

Jag misstänker att Thailand inte har större problem än andra länder under denna lågkonjunktur.

Det jag tror är att vad Abisith menar, är, att HANS problem är att HAN kanske inte sitter kvar vid makten efter ett val.

[Sunebam]

Jag har inte läst hela tråden.
Kanske detta skrivits tidigare.

Prime Minister Abhisit slagord när PAD demonstrera var att om han var PM skulle han minsann avgå när det stod 100.000 tals demonstranter utanför dörren (egentligen var det väl att om majoriteten av folket ville att han skulle avgå). Om detta levs upp till återstår väl att se. Men det kanske ligger till grund varför han ens sätter sig ner och pratar vid samma bord?. Någon som vet mer?

[Nille]

Thailands förre premiärminister Thaksin Shinawatra har lämnat Dubai och befinner sig i Sverige.

Enligt flera thailändska medier lämnade Thaksin Shinawatra Dubai den 26 mars och befinner sig nu i Stockholm. Svenska UD bekräftar att Thaksin kommit till Sverige, men kunde på tisdagen inte bekräfta att han var kvar, rapporterar TT.

Panich Vikitsreth, som arbetar på det thailändska utrikesdepartementet, bekräftar för tidningen Bangkok Post att Thaksin Shinawatra kom till Sverige under den gångna helgen.

Läs hela artikeln på sydsvenskan http://sydsvenskan.se/varlden/article642483/Thaksin-Shinawatra-i-Sverige.html

Ps. lite lustigt…. att sverige skulle sälla sig till bananrepubliker som håller Thaksin med uppehälle

Ps2. fast egentligen är sverige nog en bra plats för förhandlingar för alla parter

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Jag fick e-post häromdagen av en boende i Thailand, och nu kanske man kan skönja baksidan av alla demonstarationer.

Jag var i Chiang-Mai häromdagen och såg nästan inga falanger.
Dom som fanns var mest fransmän
och hittade detta i tidningen

Chiang Mai Mail reporters

Thousands of tour guides in Chiang Mai are currently jobless due to the political and economic crises in Thailand. Tourist numbers have dropped to 10 percent of normal and the remaining guides with work find themselves working about 3 days a month on average. Around 4,300 guides are out of work, according to Somrit Hikham, the President of the Chiang Mai Guides Association.

så inte undra på att det är tomt

NN

Dessutom, vad har hänt med alla röda bråkmakare? Klagade inte människorättsgrupper att de bara har blivit kastade i fängelse utan att blivit anklagade för någonting. Eller har jag fel?

Rospiggen

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